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Article- possible implications of Keira Bell victory

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donquixotedelamancha Fri 11-Dec-20 20:23:22

capx.co/the-keira-bell-case-was-not-a-defeat-for-trans-people-but-a-victory-for-restraint/

Really good article on the Bell case.

Discusses things like why the Tavi lost so badly, why Mermaids' and Stonewall's 'evidence' was rejected and the implications of the fact that Keira pursued a judicial review rather than a tort.

The difference between judicial review and tort is large and the remedies are different. This is probably best explained to the layman by pointing out that she did not set out to bankrupt the NHS.

Tavistock had not collated data on the age distribution of those prescribed puberty blockers. It had kept no statistics on the number or proportion of children referred to Tavistock with an existing autism diagnosis and then prescribed puberty blockers. It has no data on the number, if any, of young people assessed suitable for puberty blockers where the drugs were not prescribed because they were not Gillick competent. There has been no research as to why, in 2011, the gender split among children presenting at the clinic was roughly 50/50 between natal girls and boys but by 2019 the split had become 76% in favour of girls.

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mumwhatnothing Fri 11-Dec-20 20:49:58

Excellent article.

persistentwoman Fri 11-Dec-20 21:03:52

A great article. What a pleasure it is to finally see well informed, well researched and reasoned articles being published. World rugby, all the court cases, scientific reviews about the advantages born males have in sport, the Scottish reversal ensuring that women who have been raped don't have to accept medical treatment from a born male and the rest.
There's still a mountain to climb against the hysterical gender woowoo brigade but it's a good start.

AnnnaBananna Fri 11-Dec-20 21:04:46

Excellent article. There have been a lot of critical comments saying she asked for the treatment and is now whinging about being given it. It’s a key point that she didn’t get a single penny and what she actually sought was a review of procedures to ensure that other children didn’t suffer the same regret as she did.

334bu Fri 11-Dec-20 22:32:02

Very interesting article

DisappearingGirl Fri 11-Dec-20 22:36:13

Yes great article

donquixotedelamancha Sat 12-Dec-20 00:12:20

What a pleasure it is to finally see well informed, well researched and reasoned articles being published.

Very much this. I think people with expertise is the areas impacted by self-ID are finally starting to discuss the practical effects of these policies.

For anyone who is interested I linked an utterly superb interview on women's sports here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4103172-Sport-and-sex-philosophy-podcast

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TheFormerChild Sat 12-Dec-20 14:44:22

. . . "the court expectorated at length" . . . .

I do hope not - "expectorated " means "spat".

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