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The war against the LGB Alliance - Spectator Article Brendan O'Neill

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highame · 28/11/2020 07:41

www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-disgraceful-crusade-against-the-lgb-alliance

I find this sort of stuff very frightening. However, when a group turns on itself, it is usually the beginning of the end. I live in hope

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2020inhouse · 28/11/2020 08:12

Great article.
I think it's only when men are affected by transactivism, that anything will really happen. Women were expected to just shut up, be kind and be nice, and shove over.

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Ineverdidmind · 28/11/2020 08:17

It is extremely frightening. The lack of people willing to stand up to this is what concerns me most.

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Gooseybby · 28/11/2020 08:18

Great article, and we do all know the answer.

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nepeta · 28/11/2020 08:35

I have been hoping that the authoritarian bigotry of the woke would be ending at some point, but it appears to just grow stronger. Still, it is interesting to see how very central the project of changing all definitions having to do with biological sex and sexuality is for the activists.

I also tend to think that men must be affected before real resistance will happen, but so far the activists have tiptoed around heterosexual men. The male biological sex is still called 'men' while the female biological sex is called 'vulva people' and other similar ridiculing terms, and I am beginning to suspect that this difference is very much on purpose.

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highame · 28/11/2020 08:39

I am not sure the end of this is going to be totally down to the realisation of what is at stake. I honestly think part of the downfall will be the TRA's themselves, beginning to war against each other. It is especially odd that they would war against a gay magazine which is on another thread. Strange times, and getting stranger. Perhaps the end of the beginning

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justanotherneighinparadise · 28/11/2020 08:51

Everything has its day. Today’s left wing hipsters will be tomorrow’s right wing geriatrics. I listed to Susanne Moore’s interview and she was marvelling at how she used to be considered a leftie liberal antagonist and has now been pigeon holed as a Tory loving bigot.

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Datun · 28/11/2020 09:25

It is especially odd that they would war against a gay magazine

Not really. Sexual orientation relies on recognising sex. Trans ideology says it's irrelevant.

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thinkingaboutLangCleg · 28/11/2020 09:34

Many children who think they’re the opposite sex would grow up to be gay, not trans, if adults would just let them be.

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KittyValentine · 28/11/2020 09:43

Apologies if I’ve missed this somewhere, but the article says “They have even tried to bankrupt it”.

Does anyone know how that happened/what happened?

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Datun · 28/11/2020 09:47

@KittyValentine

Apologies if I’ve missed this somewhere, but the article says “They have even tried to bankrupt it”.

Does anyone know how that happened/what happened?

He's probably referring to this.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3895855-Both-GoFundMe-and-JustGiving-have-closed-LGB-Alliance-fundraising-pages
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WarOnWomen · 28/11/2020 09:50

It's been vicious. I, yet again, have been shocked but not surprised.

The fact that LGB Alliance have been targeted so thoroughly just reinforces how much they are needed. I will be donating towards their fund raising.

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KittyValentine · 28/11/2020 09:55

Oh right, yes I remember that! I wondered if something else had happened.

Thanks Datun.

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ChattyLion · 28/11/2020 10:02

There’s a lot I disagree with politically with the Spiked crew but this article is spot on. It’s appalling. Also has nobody noticed the glaring conflict of interest with Pink News apparently finding outrageous political and moral flaws within the tweets of one of its only UK wide media rivals?

Boyz have been treated appallingly. I do understand why they have caved but no capitulation will ever be enough for the self appointed moral police of LGBT culture now. They will never stand for the T being required to advocate for itself in public.
I’m couching what I say very carefully here.

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Datun · 28/11/2020 10:12

@KittyValentine

Oh right, yes I remember that! I wondered if something else had happened.

Thanks Datun.

To be honest, something else might have happened. But this is the only thing I can think of.
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Ameanstreakamilewide · 28/11/2020 22:50

@justanotherneighinparadise

Everything has its day. Today’s left wing hipsters will be tomorrow’s right wing geriatrics. I listed to Susanne Moore’s interview and she was marvelling at how she used to be considered a leftie liberal antagonist and has now been pigeon holed as a Tory loving bigot.

Something of a non sequitur here, but Virginia Bottomley is an anagram for 'i'm an evil Tory bigot'.

As you were!
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