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BBC 100 women of 2020

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ArabellaScott · 24/11/2020 10:57

A pretty interesting collection of women from around the world, covering many fields in arts, science, activism, etc. I believe it was collated from the World Service, so it's refreshing to see a wider picture of women around the world. Jackie Kay, the Scottish makar (equivalent of a laureate) is on there.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-55042935

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TherapistInATabard · 24/11/2020 11:01

Such an inspiring list! The Unsung Hero in first place brought a lump to my throat.

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Mumfun · 24/11/2020 11:08

Lots of inspiration and extraordinary women
Yet as usual one who is not like the others. Not allowed to have a BBC list without one of these others now. Even though they have done what looks like sweet fa

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CatsCantCatchCriminals2 · 24/11/2020 11:19

The Woman's Hour list is different, yes?

(If you see what I mean..)

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nauticant · 24/11/2020 11:24

The Woman's Hour list has a different purpose:

The Woman’s Hour Power List 2020: Our Planet is looking for 30 women based in the UK who are making a significant positive contribution to the environment or the sustainability of our planet.

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TheMissingBeaker · 24/11/2020 11:42

It's a very good list - I enjoyed reading about some great high-achievers there.


Interestingly the trans addition (which, let's be honest, we all knew would be in there, because there aren't 100 natal women who have amounted to anything in the world), is in there because why? They have made themselves sufficiently "beautiful" to the male gaze. Which is, after all, what women are here to do. So well done to that model for achieving that great thing...

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NiceGerbil · 24/11/2020 12:11

I'm surprised just one tbh I thought it had to be at least 5% or something.

I like the quote- women cannot walk alone.

Very true, not any more they can't, no.

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WorkingItOutAsIGo · 24/11/2020 12:13

What an inspiring list and so wonderful to see such a global collection of women achieving so very much and so much bff or the world. I read every single woman’s profile to honour them.

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CatsCantCatchCriminals2 · 24/11/2020 12:16

@nauticant

The Woman's Hour list has a different purpose:

The Woman’s Hour Power List 2020: Our Planet is looking for 30 women based in the UK who are making a significant positive contribution to the environment or the sustainability of our planet.



Yes, that's what I was hinting at -

I think the WH criteria for getting on the list was that specific for a purpose.

(I'm skirting around saying what I really mean so's not to attract another deletion.)
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aliasundercover · 24/11/2020 12:56

I knew of course that women were not good enough to fill up 100 places, so i quickly scrolled through to see if I could spot the cuckoos. I got one straight away - are there others?

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OhHolyJesus · 24/11/2020 13:01

No Kamala Harris, no Caroline Lucas...

Ok so it's more a grassroots or general list, so how about

Stephanie Davies Arai
Dr Nic Williams

Or any number of women busting their ovaries for the safety and protection of women and children in society?

And I can see a pink haired scientist from here.

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ErrolTheDragon · 24/11/2020 13:05

I really want to focus on some of the great women on this list - I'm not interested in publicity for 'cuckoos'.

StarStarStarStarSarah Gilbert, obviously awesome!StarStarStarStar

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ErrolTheDragon · 24/11/2020 13:08

Good to see a few disability activists in the list.

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PearPickingPorky · 24/11/2020 13:09

Glad to see the Better Type of Womenâ„¢ are being represented as usual.

Definitely couldn't make a list of 100 of vagina-people who have done something more worthwhile than having surgery to look nicer.

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ErrolTheDragon · 24/11/2020 13:17

And I can see a pink haired scientist from here.
Confused are you implying there's anything wrong with being a pink haired scientist? In typically male-dominated fields, it's rather refreshing! She looks like a good pick to me.

She is a fan of Legoo^ and likes to play with it while being a critic of what she describes as gender biass^ in the Lego minifiguress^.[29] She has dyed her hair since she was a teenager, and is known as the "pink-haired science lady".[30]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siouxsie_Wiles

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nauticant · 24/11/2020 13:22
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ErrolTheDragon · 24/11/2020 13:30

In the context of this list, personally I'm more interested in celebrating women's work rather than finding daft twitter stuff.

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ArabellaScott · 24/11/2020 13:42

Yep, same, Errol. I was really glad to see a lot of names I've never heard of, working in fields I know little about. Will read them all properly later. I also liked the blank one to 'unsung hero', nice idea considering that so much of what women do is unmarked, unnoticed, unseen.

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Catmaiden · 24/11/2020 14:13

Good to see Prof Sarah Gilbert on this list, yet the Telegraph headline for the article about her huge contribution to the Oxford COVID-19 vaccine just had to shoehorn in something about her family life, as they did with another of the reseach team who was a woman!

Interestingly, her male colleagues family status doesn't get a mention. 🙄
Although the fact one of them is an amateur mountain climber, does get a mention.

I wonder how many children the men on the team have, and why it didn't get discussed 🤔 🙄



It’s a huge relief, now I need sleep, says mother of triplets who led race for vaccine

digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/427/reader/reader.html?social#!preferred/0/package/427/pub/427/page/21/article/105926

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ArabellaScott · 24/11/2020 14:27

Yes, that is pretty odd, Cat.

What a phenomenal achievement, Prof Gilbert.

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Catmaiden · 24/11/2020 14:40

Arabella, yes! Of all the things they could have focussed on, her extrodinary achievements, it's the number of children she had that got the mention, that and her husband giving up his job to be a SAHD, and her exceptionally long hours at work.

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PerkingFaintly · 24/11/2020 14:43

I'm delighted to see Tsitsi Dangarembga, Jackie Kay and Sarah Gilbert!

Lots of names completely new to me, too, so I'll be glad to spend a bit of time learning about them.

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PearPickingPorky · 24/11/2020 15:03

[quote Catmaiden]Good to see Prof Sarah Gilbert on this list, yet the Telegraph headline for the article about her huge contribution to the Oxford COVID-19 vaccine just had to shoehorn in something about her family life, as they did with another of the reseach team who was a woman!

Interestingly, her male colleagues family status doesn't get a mention. 🙄
Although the fact one of them is an amateur mountain climber, does get a mention.

I wonder how many children the men on the team have, and why it didn't get discussed 🤔 🙄

It’s a huge relief, now I need sleep, says mother of triplets who led race for vaccine

digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/427/reader/reader.html?social#!preferred/0/package/427/pub/427/page/21/article/105926[/quote]
In this case, I'm quite glad to hear she has triplets because it adds to her amazing accomplishment that she has managed.

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ErrolTheDragon · 24/11/2020 15:18

Catmaiden - oh ffs, the headlines eg 'oxford housewife wins Nobel prize' were bad enough in 1964 - we really don't need this sexist shit over 50 years later.

OTOH the Gilbert family do show the good that can be achieved when men step up to the mark on parenting. Just a shame it's still in any way remarkable.

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Catmaiden · 24/11/2020 16:04

Errol, I know!

Pear I agree, in part, but it is so noticable that yet again a woman is still at least partially defined by her role as a wife and mother, but her male collegues, aren't.

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PearPickingPorky · 24/11/2020 18:04

@Catmaiden

Errol, I know!

Pear I agree, in part, but it is so noticable that yet again a woman is still at least partially defined by her role as a wife and mother, but her male collegues, aren't.

I know, I do agree with you.

That said, I just thought through what I'd think if a man had achieved this and in the summary of it, they said he also had triplets.

And, tbh, I'd think "and?". It wouldn't make me think it was any more of an accomplishment for him. As I'd just assume he had a partner at home picking up all the slack while he was off being a hero.
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