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'Forty years after the Ripper, women still aren’t safe'

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HecatesCats Tue 17-Nov-20 19:53:36

In Leeds, the police prioritise 'managed misogyny' over locking up predators

Joan Smith traces a line from Sutcliffe to Holbeck's managed zone and analyses how women are let down by the criminal justice system. This is a tough read:

https://unherd.com/2020/11/forty-years-after-the-ripper-women-arent-safe/

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Gncq Tue 17-Nov-20 20:16:48

Thanks for sharing

Fallingirl Tue 17-Nov-20 20:18:37

The narrative that everything is now completely different, and women are perfectly safe, is infuriating.

Thanks for sharing, Hecarte.

ScrapThatThen Tue 17-Nov-20 20:27:24

I too have been dumbstruck by the hypocritical handwringing of the police and media this week about how women were treated at the time as if they are more consistently listened to, believed, protected and treated as humans now. They are just not. Rape prosecutions and sentencing, the number of women killed every week, rough sex defences, recording male crimes as female for example.

TheQueef Tue 17-Nov-20 20:29:31

PM to read sober.

HecatesCats Tue 17-Nov-20 22:26:02

It doesn't bear scrutiny Scrap which is really depressing.

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PearPickingPorky Wed 18-Nov-20 03:47:14

JemimaDuddlepuckkk

I think people are unsafe in general tbh. I don't think it's only women.

Do you think there are certain types of attacks that predominantly happen to women and girls, and are committed by men?

Dervel Wed 18-Nov-20 05:16:14

Men are incentivised to be violent, I wish it weren’t so. sad

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HecatesCats Wed 18-Nov-20 07:31:34

What are your thoughts on the article Jemima?

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PearPickingPorky Wed 18-Nov-20 08:37:34

JemimaDuddlepuckkk

^Do you think there are certain types of attacks that predominantly happen to women and girls, and are committed by men?^

I know men are the vast majority of murders and serious assaults. Think I read they're 4x more likely to be randomly attacked. Most women worry about walking around at night but they're far safer than men in this scenario. It's their husbands they should be scared of.

What about sex crimes, and intimate partner violence?

Do you think there might be something in the idea that women and girls are often victims of a particular type of crimes at the hands of men (and boys) and that society doesn't really tend to punish the perpetrators much, if at all?

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SunsetBeetch Wed 18-Nov-20 13:23:21

Brilliant piece. Im really liking Unherd for interesting articles.

And now there is a Netflix documentary. I hope it treats the subject sensitively.

youtu.be/LcFtS9wpoF0

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HecatesCats Wed 18-Nov-20 18:49:56

I'm a bit torn tbh, because rapists currently get away with some unspeakable things

Yes, they're getting away with rape:

Rape convictions fall to record low in England and Wales
Prosecutions and convictions have more than halved in three years while rapes have risen...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jul/30/convictions-fall-record-low-england-wales-prosecutions

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Socrates11 Wed 18-Nov-20 18:55:12

Netflix link is a trailer for 16th December. Julie Bindel is in it 👍

This is BBC, 3-part effort, looks like it's going out 8th December
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0003m05

As you say Sunset hope they deal with the topic sensitively.

Socrates11 Wed 18-Nov-20 19:02:12

The BBC documentary was released in 2019 so not a new one. Can't remember if I've already seen it! 😕

Flaxmeadow Wed 18-Nov-20 21:55:19

Yes the BBC documentary in 3 parts, (The Yorkshire Ripper Files) was shown last year. Well worth watching. Sensitively done and very much from a womens perspective. I think Julie Bindel is in that one as well.

NeedToKnow101 Thu 19-Nov-20 23:51:34

That series was really interesting; covers all the fuckups made by the police and the climate of fear women and girls were pushed to live under.

There is a interesting graphic novel written from the perspective of a young girl growing up around Leeds in this time: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25363212-becoming-unbecoming

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