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Tell Willie what you think! Scottish Lib Dem survey

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NonnyMouse1337 · 12/11/2020 03:38

"your feedback helps us campaign on what matters to you"

Go on... Tell Willie what you really think. Smile

digitallibdems.typeform.com/to/FxB812gE

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donquixotedelamancha · 12/11/2020 06:42

It's just a push poll. No-one will read the responses, the purpose is to collect email addresses.

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DidoLamenting · 12/11/2020 08:15

@donquixotedelamancha

It's just a push poll. No-one will read the responses, the purpose is to collect email addresses.

It didn't ask for an email address
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PleasantWoman · 12/11/2020 08:49

You can compete it without giving your email address.

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Sillydoggy · 12/11/2020 20:29

I told him exactly what I think! I enjoyed that.

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Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 12/11/2020 20:56

Ahh that was quite enjoyable Grin

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Igmum · 12/11/2020 21:27

Have given feedback 😁

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donquixotedelamancha · 12/11/2020 21:29

It didn't ask for an email address

It's asked for at the end. That's the point of this type of 'poll', to seem to be soliciting views but really it's just more effective than asking people to sign up to emails directly.

It's the same principle as that sales technique of asking several questions to which everyone answers yes.

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nothingcomestonothing · 14/11/2020 15:23

Told him. Dont think he'll like it much.

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Aesopfable · 14/11/2020 15:44

@donquixotedelamancha

It didn't ask for an email address

It's asked for at the end. That's the point of this type of 'poll', to seem to be soliciting views but really it's just more effective than asking people to sign up to emails directly.

It's the same principle as that sales technique of asking several questions to which everyone answers yes.

If that is what they are doing then they are idiots. Why would politicians ignore feedback? If they disagree then it at least gives them idea of barriers theyface with their preferred course of action. Alternatively, it is strange how some posters are concerned we might ve wasting our time. But our time is our own to use as we please.
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DidoLamenting · 14/11/2020 16:52

I completed it without giving an email address. I've just done it again and didn't give my email address. It only asks for an email address if you want them to contact you. An email address is not required to respond or sumit.

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DidoLamenting · 14/11/2020 16:54

@donquixotedelamancha

It didn't ask for an email address

It's asked for at the end. That's the point of this type of 'poll', to seem to be soliciting views but really it's just more effective than asking people to sign up to emails directly.

It's the same principle as that sales technique of asking several questions to which everyone answers yes.

It's not asked for in the 2 I submitted unless I want them to keep in touch with me- I don't and I didn't give my email or telephone number.
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donquixotedelamancha · 14/11/2020 18:05

Yes, that's the point. The Tories started using this type of 'survey' a couple of years ago. People are more likely to give their email addresses because:

  1. The questions frame the Lib Dems in a good light "Willie Rennie and the Scottish Liberal Democrats have worked constructively with the Scottish Government to get us through this crisis. Do you think this was the right thing to do?"


  1. The questions make people feel like they are being listened to.


  1. By the time they get to the important bit people are primed to be receptive. The three mandatory questions before the email and phone number ones both get you to give up personal information.


If that is what they are doing then they are idiots.

Well it is the Lib Dems.

Why would politicians ignore feedback?

It takes staff time to go through written responses. What happens to the data depends on who is doing it, so it's correct to say I'm overstating to say no-one will read them (though that's what happened in the similar one's I'm aware of). If they get few responses they might well feel it's worth the time.

it is strange how some posters are concerned we might ve wasting our time. But our time is our own to use as we please.

Not some posters, just me. Feel free to search me if you doubt my motivation. Of course people should do as they wish, I spend a non-trivial amount of time and money opposing self-ID and I just thought this one was likely to be ineffective.
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ArabellaScott · 14/11/2020 19:01

I told Willie what I think. Sometimes it's cathartic. Grin

Gave no details, though.

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DidoLamenting · 14/11/2020 20:38

1. The questions frame the Lib Dems in a good light "Willie Rennie and the Scottish Liberal Democrats have worked constructively with the Scottish Government to get us through this crisis. Do you think this was the right thing to do?"

2. The questions make people feel like they are being listened to

3. By the time they get to the important bit people are primed to be receptive. The three mandatory questions before the email and phone number ones both get you to give up personal information

You know maybe you could credit people with having a bit of intelligence and common sense. It was clearly the case that email and telephone were not required.

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donquixotedelamancha · 14/11/2020 22:40

You know maybe you could credit people with having a bit of intelligence and common sense. It was clearly the case that email and telephone were not required.

Why so aggressive? Those aren't my thoughts, they are the rationale behind using push-polls rather than just asking people to sign up for a newsletter. Clearly some people fall for it because they tend to generate a much higher number of sign-ups than traditional SM adverts.

I'm quite aware you don't need to sign up for emails. I didn't say you did. I didn't imagine everyone would suddenly put their email addresses in, nor is it a problem if they do.

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DidoLamenting · 15/11/2020 00:25

I'm quite aware you don't need to sign up for emails. I didn't say you did. I didn't imagine everyone would suddenly put their email addresses in, nor is it a problem if they do

Really? Your only contribution to this thread has been to tell posters, wrongly, not to complete it as it will ask for your email and then assume that anyone filling it in would be tricked into revealing it. It's a bit patronising to assume people would fall for it unless you warned them.

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donquixotedelamancha · 15/11/2020 00:33

Your only contribution to this thread has been to tell posters, wrongly, not to complete it as it will ask for your email

It does ask for your email. I haven't 'told' anyone not to complete it.

and then assume that anyone filling it in would be tricked into revealing it.

I haven't assumed anything of the sort.

It's a bit patronising to assume people would fall for it unless you warned them.

Fall for what? I simply expressed the opinion that this particular survey was unlikely to go anywhere and when asked why they would do something like that explained the rationale behind it as it was explained to me.

Have I offended you in a previous life Dido? Why do you keep willfully misrepresenting my posts when I've told you quite clearly that isn't my opinion?

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