Male violence

[AnneElliott]

twitter.com/corrinepriest/status/1324755733389430794?s=21


Not sure if there's already been a thread about this (apologies if so) but how awful the male is to follow and threaten a woman for speaking on the phone to her mum!

[june2007]

Intimidating definitely but it seems she was being antagonistic, complaining about people in ear shot when it is clear it is them she is complaining about. (when she presumably doesn,t know them.) Ofcourse it doesn't justify his behaviour but it shows that one has to be careful about what we say.

[PlanDeRaccordement]

Sorry, watched the videos and there’s no violence at all? Or any threats?

[AnneElliott]

My understanding is she was on the phone to her mother and the bloke takes issue with her conversation (ie she didn't address him herself) and then follows and threatens her.

No way would he have done that to a bloke.

[AnneElliott]

Plan I think you need to view her second and third tweet to get the full story.

[PrawnofthePatriarchy]

What a wanker! He only did this because she's a woman. Wouldn't have dared if he'd thought she could deck him.

Glad to read that he's been identified and the incident has been reported. Hope to hear he's being prosecuted.

[PlanDeRaccordement]

I did. And on the audio, he didn’t threaten anything. He’s asking why she said ‘it”; she says it was to her mum not him, he says it seemed directed at him and asks for an apology.
She accuses him of threatening to beat her up on the audio, but there’s no evidence...he doesn’t make any threats I can hear. He also responds and denied he threatened her says he doesn’t threaten people. He stays at least 5m away from her at all times.
Sorry, but there’s no violence and no threatening that I see. It’s a confrontation and a disagreement.

[AnneElliott]

Yes good news that he's been identified. Bet it's not the first time he's done this either.

[AnneElliott]

I heard him threatened to beat her up Plan. He says something like ' I can get people here to sort you out'.

[PlanDeRaccordement]

You did, can you tell me time stamp? Is it second video? Because I honestly didn’t hear that.

[JellyFishSquish]

Not so much "male violence" but male presumption of everyone accepting him as a nice person, a person that nobody would have any reason to complain of. And if anyone a woman did complain, or was misunderstood as complaining, then his aggression is justified because she clearly must be a cunt.

[JellyFishSquish]

Because male violence is justified because women complaining about men who are shits make men look bad.

[PlanDeRaccordement]

Trying hard and listened again and again and he says something like “I ain’t threatening you, yeah, but I know people right and if you want to mouth off, like some rude girl...” and she interrupts and says “I was talking to my mum on the phone.” And he says “yeah ok, let me chat you back” and she’s says “no, it’s not ok and now you’re following me”

[letsgoroundagainbaby]

He says "I ain't threatening you but I've got people here and if you want to mouth off like some kind of rude girl..."

[letsgoroundagainbaby]

I think he's saying "let me chat you back" to whoever he was on the phone with...possibly the "people" he was threatening her with?

[letsgoroundagainbaby]

She points out that he's following her, and intimidating her.

She says "you called me a posh slag and a cunt" and he says "yeah, that's exactly what you're behaving like."

[AnneElliott]

Yes you're right Letsgoround - those are his words. He also agrees that he's intimidating.

I hate the way she has to apologise to him as it's clear she's so scared he's going to hurt her.

[letsgoroundagainbaby]

@june2007

Intimidating definitely but it seems she was being antagonistic, complaining about people in ear shot when it is clear it is them she is complaining about. (when she presumably doesn,t know them.) Ofcourse it doesn't justify his behaviour but it shows that one has to be careful about what we say.

So what?

I hear plenty of people moaning about distancing/masks/touching stuff in shops.

I don't follow them down the street and call them a posh slug and a cunt.

If I did I'd have an anger problem that is entirely my own.

[letsgoroundagainbaby]

slag obviously. Because this is misogyny in action.

[AnneElliott]

I don't see that she's done anything wrong. Even if she'd told him off directly for not wearing a mask, his reaction is totally OTT.

And she's clear she didn't do that.

[CaraDuneRedux]

What a sad little wanker he is.

But horribly intimidating for the young woman, and of course the terrifying thing when you're on the receiving end of that sort of behaviour is you don't know if it's going to escalate into physical violence.

Hope the police catch up with the little gobshite.

[letsgoroundagainbaby]

The rules in his world go like this:

• he hears her talking about people not wearing masks on public transport and SHE must apologise to HIM

• he calls her a posh cunt and a slag and that's absolutely fine, because that's what she's behaving like in his view so that's exactly what she is.

This is really not a six of one / half a dozen on the other situation and anybody who can frame this as a 'disagreement' needs to have a good word with themselves.

[CaraDuneRedux]

This is really not a six of one / half a dozen on the other situation and anybody who can frame this as a 'disagreement' needs to have a good word with themselves

Yes, precisely.

I am always disappointed but sadly rarely surprised when posters pop up to tell us yet again that "it isn't really male violence and if it is she deserved it."

I'm sure some posters on this thread have already ticked off at least 4 or 5 of TheBewilderness's rules of misogyny (including "the worst thing about male-on-female violence is it makes men look bad")

[ScreamingBeans]

Women have to put up wiht this sort of shit all the time.

You just never know when some bloke with anger issues will decide that as you're on your own and you're female so can't lamp him one, he'll threaten you with violence.

And yet no one acknowledges that this is the background to our lives.

[PrawnofthePatriarchy]

So true. The list of my bad experiences with men is lurid and shockingly long. And most nice men have zero knowledge of this part of our lives.

[NewlyGranny]

The most telling thing, apart from the intimidating following in the street and threats of violence from the 'people' he can call on, is his entitled comment that the world is his oyster and he can do what he wants. She obviously can't, in his predatory view.

Public space is male space; males dictate what females are permitted to say and do. Having a voice, expressing a view - even on the phone to her mum - is too much personality and assertiveness for him to handle.

This is the sort of man who assumes all half-heard conversations and innocent laughter are about him and feels threatened. Women are in the world on his sufferance and must conform to his expectations.