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Start using Mumsnet PremiumJohnny Depp loses libel case against The Sun
(194 Posts)I think this is probably a good thing for those of us who campaign against domestic violence:
www.theguardian.com/film/2020/nov/02/johnny-depp-loses-libel-case-against-sun-over-claims-he-beat-ex-wife-amber-heard
Good
So pleased for her. He is a disgrace.
I’m pleasantly surprised! Expected him to win
Good.
Yes Heard admitted to being violent too, but people seem to think a woman fucking up cancels out a man fucking up. It doesn't. He IS a wife beater, he is vile, and the blind Pirates of the Carribean fans who think because he's attractive/good at this job means he can't be an abuser, want to have a word with themselves
Very pleased.
So now we can say "wife-beater, Johnny Depp" in the same way that we can say "liar, Jeffrey Archer"...
Well done to the judge.
Depp really fucked up even bringing this suit. No one took the article seriously (it was in THE SUN, ffs). Even without the verdict, he ended up coming off a thousand times worse than what they printed.
Poor Amber still has an US-based trial with him to get through.
Will this hinder his career in any way? I mean, I boycott so many movies and other business and arts items, due to certain men being wife beaters (I won't mention them on here as I am unsure which of them have been convicted in court) but I do not know any other people who do. So when a movie or song comes on and I switch over and explain to my family, they look at me with that "isn't mum mad" look (even, worryingly, my DD).
So will there be any change? I mean, if he had upset someone in the cancel culture category, he would no longer have a career, but in the sphere of DV, are men not always allowed an out?
Having rad the comments section in the Daily Mail, he is well supported and no one believes the verdict - so my question was answered. Colour me shocked!
sorry, read
#JusticeforJohnnyDepp
Bollocks! That doesn't really change anytines opinion of either of them, does it?
They are both volatile, attention seeking people who shouldn't be in close relationships with anyone!
I don't know how anyone can support one or the other of them! Neither of them have an excuse for their behaviour!
The lack of people agreeing with the verdict doesn't surprise me after all the adoring crap I've read about Sean Connery this weekend - a man who said he thought it was fine for men to hit women and whose ex wife said he hit her regularly.
It won't his career in the slightest especially when people like JK Rowling backed him when the aligations came out
GOOD
Johnny Depp didn't lose the case because he is guilty of being a wife beater, he lost the case because the Sun published the article with the belief that the information was true and therefore no liable.
The case the case in America will determine if he was abusive
It's not unexpected. I don't know why he was advised to pursue it.
But as for "poor Amber" - they were as bad as each other.
It's actually pretty difficult to lose a libel case under English law - celebrities go out of their way to have libel cases heard in England - so this is a major embarrasment for Depp. I think they're both horrible people and The Scum is a vile rag, but Amber Heard has been vindicated here.
GoldenNCurly
Johnny Depp didn't lose the case because he is guilty of being a wife beater, he lost the case because the Sun published the article with the belief that the information was true and therefore no liable.
The case the case in America will determine if he was abusive
No, the judge didn't just say that there was no libel because the Sun reasonably believed the information to be true (which can be one defence against a libel charge). He said there was no libel because they had proven that is actually WAS true.
But as for "poor Amber" - they were as bad as each other.
Yes
DidoLamenting
It's not unexpected. I don't know why he was advised to pursue it.
But as for "poor Amber" - they were as bad as each other.
This
DidoLamenting
It's not unexpected. I don't know why he was advised to pursue it.
But as for "poor Amber" - they were as bad as each other.
Absolutely. She's pretty vile too
I followed the trial in the papers and I couldn't really understand why he decided to bring the case. Both sides admitted they were violent so no good was ever going to come of all the extra publicity.
Annasgirl
Will this hinder his career in any way? I mean, I boycott so many movies and other business and arts items, due to certain men being wife beaters (I won't mention them on here as I am unsure which of them have been convicted in court) but I do not know any other people who do. So when a movie or song comes on and I switch over and explain to my family, they look at me with that "isn't mum mad" look (even, worryingly, my DD).
So will there be any change? I mean, if he had upset someone in the cancel culture category, he would no longer have a career, but in the sphere of DV, are men not always allowed an out?
No, of course not. Abusive male celebrities are Teflon coated. One of them holds the most powerful position in the world FFS (Trump).
Will the US case be dismissed then?
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