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"I'm not a cis woman": Julia on talkRADIO

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Malahaha Sat 31-Oct-20 09:31:49

OMG this is fabulous. She is not taking that shit. Good for her!

twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1068434726908776448

Julia: "I'm not a CIS woman, I'm a woman. I'm not going to have that BBC claptrap on my show. If you say that I'm going to ask you to leave my studio."

If only we could all speak up like this!

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MarshaBradyo Sat 31-Oct-20 09:33:57

Brilliant! Yes let’s all say it. I do on here at least, haven’t had it irl.

lockdownlegend Sat 31-Oct-20 09:41:19

I want to send her a postcard now!

IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 Sat 31-Oct-20 09:44:30

I love what she did there.

Bmidreams Sat 31-Oct-20 09:45:56

Brilliant, but it's 2 years old.

Datun Sat 31-Oct-20 09:46:35

It's her show, she's got the microphone, she makes the rules. This is a subject about which Julia is very passionate, and, unusually, she has all the power.

But he still couldn't leave it, could he?

She clearly knows exactly why she is not prepared to be called cis. But that's simply not enough for him. He still had to bang on. It's just Latin. But it's easier. What about non transwoman then.

Was he really expecting her to go, of course! I didn't think of that, cis it is.

Good for her.

It's unusual and really, really refreshing to see a woman's opinion being impervious to male dominance.

Datun Sat 31-Oct-20 09:47:27

Bmidreams

Brilliant, but it's 2 years old.

Yes, it's not a new clip. But she hasn't changed her mind.

At all!

Her speaking on the phone to Lily Madigan, is also quite revealing.

BuffaloCauliflower Sat 31-Oct-20 09:50:42

Every time I see someone publicly speaking this way it gives me hope, even if it is 2 years old.

Smellbellina Sat 31-Oct-20 09:54:07

Love it!

NewlyGranny Sat 31-Oct-20 09:59:28

He wouldn't drop it, would he?!

"Woman, if you'd just listen properly - and I'm going to keep talking at you until you do - you'd see how right I am. I know it's your show and I'm here to tell you how to do it properly." 🙄

justanotherneighinparadise Sat 31-Oct-20 09:59:56

I just ROARED. Love it. Fabulous!!

justanotherneighinparadise Sat 31-Oct-20 10:00:42

Bmidreams

Brilliant, but it's 2 years old.

And yet NOTHING has changed.

DreadingSeason2020sFinale Sat 31-Oct-20 10:15:20

I also noticed that he just wouldn't leave it. He wouldn't take a woman's word on what women should call themselves. How fucking dare he?! How dare he, like TRAs do, tell US what we may no longer define ourselves as the legal, biological term for adult human females. That we are no longer women (though Transwomen can use that term for their own) but a newly defined subset of "woman".

Want to start telling black people what they can call themselves too?

Mysoginistic dick.

YetAnotherSpartacus Sat 31-Oct-20 10:17:58

Brilliant! How did I miss it the first time around?

Malahaha Sat 31-Oct-20 10:18:56

DreadingSeason2020sFinale

I also noticed that he just wouldn't leave it. He wouldn't take a woman's word on what women should call themselves. How fucking dare he?! How dare he, like TRAs do, tell US what we may no longer define ourselves as the legal, biological term for adult human females. That we are no longer women (though Transwomen can use that term for their own) but a newly defined subset of "woman".

Want to start telling black people what they can call themselves too?

Mysoginistic dick.

This. And yet TRAs are all over the place, all over Twitter, when we happen to call them something they don't like, even if it's the truth:
men, not-women, he/him.

So they can demand how they are referred to, but we can't. How is this possible? Why do so many people cave to this?

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Malahaha Sat 31-Oct-20 10:22:33

YetAnotherSpartacus

Brilliant! How did I miss it the first time around?

I think the first time around most of us -- apart from the savvy women on MN -- had no clue how rampant, and how insulting, this was, what the implications were, so we didn't really care. It was all really? Oh, Ok. I'm cis, then.
I first heard of it on an American forum I was a member of about 8 years ago. They all began talking about cis-women, as if it was normal. I never used the word myself, but I accepted that they knew better and never raised a challenge. I think a lot of us were like that, back then.
Just shows how times have changed. Now, nothing raises my hackles as much as cis (well actually quite a few things, but you know what I mean.)

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Helmetbymidnight Sat 31-Oct-20 10:27:52

Martina Navratilova retweeted it today?

Cue: 'Sad to hear this' etc etc.

Winesalot Sat 31-Oct-20 10:38:40

It has been heartening that Julia has not backed down on this. And yes, thear language changes have gone too far.

Winesalot Sat 31-Oct-20 10:39:03

*these language

FannyCann Sat 31-Oct-20 10:40:33

Martina Navratilova retweeted it today?

Ah, that explains why I am suddenly getting twitter likes of my two years old comment.

It was brilliant (her, not my comment) and needs to be recirculated regularly!

Cailleach1 Sat 31-Oct-20 10:43:35

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Helmetbymidnight Sat 31-Oct-20 10:45:41

Martina, please clarify. Are u against the term Cis or do u not think that trans women are legitimate women. This post shows u wanted to say something... I'm just confused

These people. Unbelievable.

YetAnotherSpartacus Sat 31-Oct-20 10:49:00

I think the first time around most of us -- apart from the savvy women on MN -- had no clue how rampant, and how insulting, this was, what the implications were, so we didn't really care. It was all really? Oh, Ok. I'm cis, then

I've never been 'cis' OP smile. I've never accepted the word. I just missed the wonderful takedown of the misogynistic interviewee! I loved it!

KnightsofColumbusThatHurt Sat 31-Oct-20 11:02:22

'The two groups are woman and transwoman'

THANK YOU!!!

Malahaha Sat 31-Oct-20 11:06:46

YetAnotherSpartacus

*I think the first time around most of us -- apart from the savvy women on MN -- had no clue how rampant, and how insulting, this was, what the implications were, so we didn't really care. It was all really? Oh, Ok. I'm cis, then*

I've never been 'cis' OP smile. I've never accepted the word. I just missed the wonderful takedown of the misogynistic interviewee! I loved it!

Oh, I did understand that. It's just that two years ago I wouldn't have taken it the whole "cis" thing as seriously as I do now. I too was never cis, but I saw women left right and centre, especially on that forum I mentioned, who embraced the term without a second thought.

Few of us got the wider implications, and so this video didn't go viral, and so we "missed" it. Now it will go viral, I expect. Because now we are all clued in.

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