'Top Surgery'

[Babysharkdoodoodood]

Just had a mastectomy last week after my implant burst. BC was 8 years ago, but I'm still here.

Anyway, totally pissed off at the lopsided-ness as remaining boob is an E-cup, but obviously they won't remove it as it's healthy

Somewhat flippantly I was thinking, maybe I should now identify as in the wrong body, as my ideal body will now be chestless ? And then I can be classed as suffering from body dysmorphia and I can get the nhs to sort me out, instead of having to save up for it myself?

Or is that totally tasteless?

Runs and ducks for cover

[HoneysuckIejasmine]

Are the NHS just planning to leave you as you currently are now?

[Winesalot]

I hope that you are recovering Babysharkdoodoodood. I find the dissonance in these situations is very high. It really does illuminate how far 'no debate' has gone hasn't it.

[Vermeil]

Both mine went in April, after being diagnosed late October last year, then finding out I had the BRCA1 mutation. Goodbye tits!
Have you not been offered a prosthetic?

[YetAnotherSpartacus]

It's so unfair OP.

And the eumphemism 'top surgery' makes me sick.

[Babysharkdoodoodood]

@Vermeil

Both mine went in April, after being diagnosed late October last year, then finding out I had the BRCA1 mutation. Goodbye tits!
Have you not been offered a prosthetic?

Yeah, but I've still got drain and dressings on so have to wait until I'm healed before fitting.

Yup, nhs won't pay to be evened out. I could've had another implant in but they only last 10 years. Mine just went 2 years early. I would be so much happier without the other one.my tops all look weird now. I'll have to invent a one cup bra.

[Hathertonhariden]

Have you seen the "knitted knockers" website?

[EyeRollForever]

As with so much on this board, awful but not surprising. I hope you are holding up ok.

Could you have a legal case for sex discrimination, here?

If a female has a GRC they are legally male and would thus be your comparator in law, right? So if that person is legally male and can have a double mastectomy of healthy breasts on the NHS, and you cannot because you are female, that's direct discrimination. They are treating female and "male" people differently. I'd like to see this tested in court tbh

[TeaAndStrumpets]

Enraged on your behalf, babyshark Unfortunately, you have made the mistake of being born female.

BTW Earlier today I caught part of a discussion about average length of time for endometriosis to be diagnosed, and just wanted to scream.

[TeaAndStrumpets]

Being born female and staying female of course, big mistake. It pushes you to the back of the queue.

[Babysharkdoodoodood]

@EyeRollForever

As with so much on this board, awful but not surprising. I hope you are holding up ok.

Could you have a legal case for sex discrimination, here?

If a female has a GRC they are legally male and would thus be your comparator in law, right? So if that person is legally male and can have a double mastectomy of healthy breasts on the NHS, and you cannot because you are female, that's direct discrimination. They are treating female and "male" people differently. I'd like to see this tested in court tbh

I'd love to do this but am not super rich. Could do a go-fund me thing I suppose, but shy from the limelight. Plus my employer is too pro-tra for me to risk it.

[Babysharkdoodoodood]

@Hathertonhariden

Have you seen the "knitted knockers" website?

I get a free prosthesis anyway. But I don't want any boobs full stop.

I guess I could use a binder (I'll give myself a for that thought)

[EyeRollForever]

@Babysharkdoodoodood I totally get it, and you shouldn't be in the position where you can only get equal and fair treatment via legal action. The priority has to be your health and well being. But gods, it absolutely boils my piss that you get fobbed off like this just because you are a woman!

[zanahoria]

And the eumphemism 'top surgery' makes me sick

me too but makes me realise how cowardly the ideology is if they need these twee terms

[Delphinium20]

This makes me so angry for you. I'm also struck by the doctors who refused surgical removal of a healthy body part. I mean, I kinda agree with that premise in that another surgery has its health risks for you. But why oh why is that premise of removing healthy body parts not across the board?

But I would also think having one side heavier than the other would bring neck/back muscle issues. I wish you well.

So sorry OP.

[Babysharkdoodoodood]

@Delphinium20

This makes me so angry for you. I'm also struck by the doctors who refused surgical removal of a healthy body part. I mean, I kinda agree with that premise in that another surgery has its health risks for you. But why oh why is that premise of removing healthy body parts not across the board?

But I would also think having one side heavier than the other would bring neck/back muscle issues. I wish you well.

So sorry OP.

Yup, my shoulders are already aching where I feel twisted: and it's not even been a week!

[Sexnotgender]

I’m sorry, it’s all just so shit.

[KnightsofColumbusThatHurt]

What is the policy for trans men getting double mastectomies, ahem sorry, 'top surgery' on the NHS?

I often see crowd funding pages for 'help me get my top surgery' on Twitter etc so I thought you had to pay but I may be wrong.? Did Keira Bell get hers on the NHS?

[KnightsofColumbusThatHurt]

I'm really sorry to hear about your surgery troubles by the way. I had a lumpectomy a couple of years ago to remove BC and I am always so thankful that I didn't need more extensive surgery, my left arm is still not quite right sometimes even all this time later. Sending

[Babysharkdoodoodood]

I think it was funded by nhs until corona-time. Just had a re-tweet pop up on my timeline.

[risefromyourgrave]

@Babysharkdoodoodood

I think it was funded by nhs until corona-time. Just had a re-tweet pop up on my timeline.

Those damn cancer ridden women, how dare they take precedent?!

Babyshark I can only imagine the discomfort you must feel.

[Sexnotgender]

I’m pretty sure that tweet was from ages ago?

[IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2]

@KnightsofColumbusThatHurt

What is the policy for trans men getting double mastectomies, ahem sorry, 'top surgery' on the NHS?

I often see crowd funding pages for 'help me get my top surgery' on Twitter etc so I thought you had to pay but I may be wrong.? Did Keira Bell get hers on the NHS?

Yes, I'd like to know too. Anyone?

[IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2]

...because this has implications for the Brighton food shop woman.

[SabrinasCat]

Nottinghamshire NHS says it is.

“Is surgery funded on the NHS?

Yes. Chest reconstructive surgery and genital reconstruction surgery (GRS or SRS) is necessary for many trans or non-binary people to live their lives; and for some denial of access to treatment can be life-threatening. However, for a nationalised healthcare system such as the NHS it is important that only people who would benefit from surgery are given it. This is one of the reasons, aside from the great number of ethical considerations, that we have a process of diagnosis and evaluation.“


www.nottinghamshirehealthcare.nhs.uk/gender-faqs

[IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2]

Thank you SabrinasCat.

So the women who are asking people to chip in for the operation have either been told that the NHS won't do it or perhaps the waiting list is very long so they choose go private?




But now I'm wondering, if the NHS refuse because they think it's not beneficial does that mean the private sector will just go ahead and perform the (unnecessary?) operation as long as the "patient" has the cash?

Really?