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Just raised point on sex not gender with hr

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ItsLateHumpty Fri 18-Sep-20 00:21:22

An ocean is made of many drops <ooo deep> grin

Well done hoorayforharoldlloyd it was a brave of you to speak up, and it seems to have paid off.

littlbrowndog Thu 17-Sep-20 22:37:58

Wee things are the stuff tha5 matters. Great work 💪💪

Fantasisa Thu 17-Sep-20 22:30:19

I did exactly this in work and had it changed. I think it is little things like this where we can and should use our own personal influence. It is a factual correction that ought to be pointed out and rectified. Well done, OP. It is also a point where we should all feel on safe ground.

Saladseeds Thu 17-Sep-20 22:26:21

I complain about this stuff under a pseudonym and would if it were my workplace. They need to take it as they would from any member of the public pointing out they are not accurately reflecting the law. So even if it's your workplace you can complain... I could never use my own name for fear of retribution...

dumpling23 Thu 17-Sep-20 21:15:18

Thanks!

mindfulnessfail Thu 17-Sep-20 18:34:12

@zeno001 on twitter does a lot of this dumpling - look out for his tweets on such matter. He has the text down to a fine legalese art..

dumpling23 Thu 17-Sep-20 17:04:47

Well done hoorayforharoldlloyd !! I'm seeing a lot of this at the moment and am psyching myself to do the same. Look out for my thread asking for tips!

Wearywithteens Thu 17-Sep-20 16:55:01

The good thing is that any corporate body is on dodgy ground misquoting the law so you are not being inflammatory, or political, just accurate 😇

hoorayforharoldlloyd Thu 17-Sep-20 16:32:47

Got an email back already to say thanks for pointing it out and adding it to their list of things to change and will be updating it! Am amazed (and a bit relieved!). Just said thought the training was good but their list of protected characteristics was incorrect. Which it is.

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EvelynBeatrice Thu 17-Sep-20 14:22:23

I can’t see what an employee who falls within a protected characteristic under the Equality Act could be regarded as doing wrong by merely politely asking the employer to include that characteristic in its equality policy in order to avoid any (inadvertent I’m sure grin) implication that it does not regard sex discrimination as seriously as discrimination against other protected characteristics.

AlsoNotAGirl Thu 17-Sep-20 14:06:41

Tootletum

I work for the largest bank in the UK and the global diversity policy now also says gender, along with some other random stuff the isn't in the act at all. I don't have the guts to point it out - maybe they have some other reason for the odd looking list.

Their internal policy can extend the protection but they can't remove existing legal protection. So they can add whatever random category they like but it should always include the full legal protections.

JustCallMeGriffin Thu 17-Sep-20 12:33:14

I wrote our diversity material and refused to budge on the legal protected characteristics when challenged by the diversity 'experts'. I just kept quoting the law and asking if they wanted to consult the legal team on re-writing legislation to suit their perception of the law. That shut them up for now and my training proudly lists sex as a protection characteristic grin

Tootletum Thu 17-Sep-20 12:21:12

I work for the largest bank in the UK and the global diversity policy now also says gender, along with some other random stuff the isn't in the act at all. I don't have the guts to point it out - maybe they have some other reason for the odd looking list.

mindfulnessfail Thu 17-Sep-20 12:19:19

Hooray I did the same a few weeks ago. It was via the training 'feedback' at the end of the (online) course. I've not heard anything back at all! They'd added a few randoms in and omitted 'sex'. So bizarre! How can an EDI team be so ignorant within their own specialist field?

Good for you though. Let us know what the outcome is. You're not alone though, we are many x

LittleCabbage Thu 17-Sep-20 11:42:42

Good for you. There seem to be a lot of posts like this at the mo - small things but will add up to a big difference if lots of us are doing it. 🌟

hoorayforharoldlloyd Thu 17-Sep-20 11:39:06

New online training listing equality act protected characteristics as gender. Good training apart from that. Have just emailed hr to say that it is incorrect. Feel like taking a big risk in current climate and a bit lonely. But also that it was time to say something.

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