Talk

Advanced search

Co op

(88 Posts)
Theluggage15 Fri 04-Sep-20 11:57:57

Sorry if there’s already a thread about this but a trans person called Lisa objected to the Co op advertising in the ‘transphobic’ Spectator. Someone from the co op of course apologised and said they would look at not advertising there again. It was brought to Andrew Neil’s attention (chairman of Spectator) and his reply on Twitter was

No need to bother, Co-op. As of today you are henceforth banned from advertising in The Spectator, in perpetuity. We will not have companies like yours use their financial might to try to influence our editorial content, which is entirely a matter for the editor.

Glad the Spectator are standing up to this rubbish.

OP’s posts: |
TheKrakening3 Fri 04-Sep-20 12:01:12

600 likes for Co-op’s ridiculous post in a day. 6000 for Andrew Neil in an hour. Go Andrew and the Spectator.

Beamur Fri 04-Sep-20 12:01:32

Glad to hear it too.
Why are companies handing out such unthought through promises on the vague accusation from an internet nobody?
Someone needs to reign in the Twitter staff.

Muttonindistress Fri 04-Sep-20 12:02:12

💪 I’m definitely subscribing to the Spectator now.

BrassicaRabbit Fri 04-Sep-20 13:26:24

I wonder if the virtual signalling fool in the CoOp's twitter dept will ever have cause to reflect on her actions. I love the editor's response. It highlights the gravity of the situation. Will anyone further up at the CoOp say anything?

SunsetBeetch Fri 04-Sep-20 13:41:28

TheKrakening3

600 likes for Co-op’s ridiculous post in a day. 6000 for Andrew Neil in an hour. Go Andrew and the Spectator.

That's really good!

We do have a thread on it here (it's more about The Spectator, which is probably why you may have missed it).

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4013376-Spectator-accused-tried-and-convicted-of-transphobia-in-minutes

SunsetBeetch Fri 04-Sep-20 13:44:41

This is indeed glorious:

"No need to bother, Co-op. As of today you are henceforth banned from advertising in The Spectator, in perpetuity. We will not have companies like yours use their financial might to try to influence our editorial content, which is entirely a matter for the editor."

TweeBree Fri 04-Sep-20 13:59:32

Brilliant! Glad there are still news orgs with some sense.

Whatwouldscullydo Fri 04-Sep-20 14:04:22

That back fired a bit didnt it.

Everyone who reads it has the freedom to believe or disbelieve or search for other stories etc

You cannot take away control over what we read and think!

Babdoc Fri 04-Sep-20 14:05:02

Is that the same Andrew Neil who eats SNP politicians alive in interviews when they try to talk total bollocks about how to cover an independent Scotland’s 8.5% deficit without any tax rises or service cuts?
If so, I think I’m in love...! grin

persistentwoman Fri 04-Sep-20 14:12:55

Apparently the Co op's advertising policy states that they will "not seek to influence editorial independence". Yet here they are.

Alway amazing how this oh so weak vulnerable group manage to have so much influence in the corridors of power and business hmm

AlsoNotAGirl Fri 04-Sep-20 14:15:55

I'm really tired of organisations caving immediately on the hint of disapproval from any one identifying as trans on twitter

Co-op added to my boycott list

MillyMollyFarmer Fri 04-Sep-20 14:21:53

Here’s a link to Andrew Neils tweet, I do admire quite a lot about how he conducts himself I have to say. Didn’t the spectator give back furlough money?

mobile.twitter.com/afneil/status/1301822074982404096

TreestumpsAndTrampolines Fri 04-Sep-20 14:52:42

The immediate capitulation is what I find the most confusing. (and yes, well done to Andrew Neil for doing what Editors should!)

If I were more conspiracy-minded, I might think that these things were set up - that it was pre-arranged and staged for the public to see, pour encourager les autres.

Surely taking a couple of days to actually investigate an accusation, or a few weeks months (years!) for an enquiry would be reasonable. It's the way they apologise and change behaviour within hours that I just find so unbelievably odd.

SunsetBeetch Fri 04-Sep-20 17:19:58

The Coop tweet that Andrew quote tweeted is gone

gardenbird48 Fri 04-Sep-20 17:24:03

they've changed their minds now and said that it was all a mistake - they stick with their stated policy - phew!

Beamur Fri 04-Sep-20 17:24:34

I wonder if the co op will clarify their position publicly?

SunsetBeetch Fri 04-Sep-20 17:25:19

Oh I see

"That’s escalated quickly and we want to set the record straight. The tweet sent yesterday was incorrect and does not reflect our advertising position. Our policy supports editorial freedom and you can read more about it here: coop.uk/3bs0jhB ^Fi

twitter.com/coopuk/status/1301880790700220419?s=20

OvaHere Fri 04-Sep-20 18:50:47

It's interesting how one powerful man takes them to task and they backtrack. Thousands of women regularly take these woke brands to task over misogyny and rarely do they listen.

BlueBrush Fri 04-Sep-20 19:10:02

Very true @OvaHere

ArabellaScott Fri 04-Sep-20 19:12:33

Yep, Ova. Depressing. Much like Asda's immediate turnaround when the Baroness got involved. I mean, she's great, but it's depressing that ordinary people count for fuck all for these companies. Especially ordinary people of the female variety.

DidoLamenting Fri 04-Sep-20 19:17:02

Babdoc

Is that the same Andrew Neil who eats SNP politicians alive in interviews when they try to talk total bollocks about how to cover an independent Scotland’s 8.5% deficit without any tax rises or service cuts?
If so, I think I’m in love...! grin

The very same. He is just fantastic. He cuts no one any slack.

Manderleyagain Fri 04-Sep-20 19:20:43

Coop replied to Andrew Neil saying they have not withdrawn advertising from the spectator.

highame Fri 04-Sep-20 19:26:14

It's about time we got real instead of getting depressed.

I'm not sure we will ever combat misogyny without a complete re-think. I say that because we are now going backwards and having done all this stuff in the 60's and 70's that means we may not be tackling this issue in the right way.

Not sure what that re-think is but I sure do know it's needed.

I don't care who is on my side, I just want action and I'll take whatever's going

highame Fri 04-Sep-20 19:44:06

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spectator-bans-co-op-from-advertising-in-editorial-freedom-row-2g5qqkqfg

Times running the article. The comments are great.
Don't think the Spectator will, think they've made their point.

Join the discussion

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

Join Mumsnet

Already have a Mumsnet account? Log in