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Facebook nonsense has just wound me right up

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JulesCobb · 16/08/2020 22:43

Two colleagues have shared this. I wanted to write man murders someone while robbing a bank. Of course it was his mother’s fault for not telling him off for stealing a bike when be was a teen. Of course a bank robbing murdering man is not responsible for his own actions. Must be a woman’s fault. Maybe his girlfriend asked for money for food, too. But I can’t. Because theyre colleagues. Who I’m about to block...

But then I thought maybe I’m over reacting.

But this just seems like reinforcing the belief that it is always a women's fault, disguised as parenting advice.

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A prison inmate on a death row was asked his last wish before he could be electrocuted in the electric chair, he asked for a pen and paper then wrote;
Dear mum, If the law was fair today you would be here seated next to me waiting to be electrocuted in the electric chair, but since the law is blind I have been convicted for the crimes we committed together. Mum remember how it started, do you remember when I was 3 years old when I stole my brothers sweets? you didn't correct me, remember very well when I was five the day I stole my neibours toys and hid it at home you said nothing, mum remember when I was 12 when I hid my cousin's ball in the garage when he had come to play with us at home and you said that you did see it yet you saw it. Do you remember the day I was expelled from school at 15 years? Dad wanted to purnish me but you refused and that very day you had a bitter argument with dad about this because you where defending me , you said I was still young you said the teachers where wrong to say that I was not attending class. You defended me, you said I was right yet you knew I was wrong. Mum remember very well, you saw me steal our neibours' bicycle when I was 17 but you didn't report I sold it but you were silent mum. You loved me so much yes you loved me but you you didn't correct me, instead you spoilt me. That is how it started and it graduated slowly until today when I will be electrocuted for bank robbery and mudder. I was very young I just needed your guidance mum, by the time you will be reading this I will be gone
Yours truly, your loving son.

To all parents out there the Bible says. Proverbs 13:24
"Those who spare the rod of discipline hate their children. Those who love their children care enough to discipline them." Love your children don't forget to displine them.

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DianasLasso · 16/08/2020 22:46

What a pile of bilge!

Your colleagues are (a) sexist skidmarks for thinking this is worth sharing and (b) gullible pillocks for thinking that this is in any way true!

Block them with pride. (Possibly post "cool story, bro" on their wall before you do so - this will hurt them far more than pointing out their obvious and glaring misogyny.)

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NiceGerbil · 16/08/2020 23:03

What a load of shite.

Also unlikely to be true tbh.

You could say you'd like to read more about it and what's the name of the prisoner, then wait and see..

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JulesCobb · 16/08/2020 23:03

I typed a paragraph but, in a very unlike me moment, decided that probably wasn’t sensible.

Both female colleagues btw too. Hmm

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DianasLasso · 16/08/2020 23:06

Sadly, internalised misogyny is a thing.

The sensible choice is good, though... they are colleagues, and your workplace probably has policies about social media use. Blocking is the way forward.

(Remember the old adage: arguing with an online troll is like wrestling with a pig - you both end up covered in shit, but the pig enjoys it.)

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SquishySquirmy · 16/08/2020 23:09

Load of shite.
I would seriously question the intelligence of anyone who shared that!

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JulesCobb · 16/08/2020 23:11

@SquishySquirmy

Load of shite.
I would seriously question the intelligence of anyone who shared that!

Yes. Im beginning to wonder how one has been promoted to senior manager level...
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Antibles · 16/08/2020 23:25

Clearly made up.

And Dad gets off scot free!

I'd be tempted to post disingenuously: "Thanks very much for sharing this glaring faked example of misogyny. Good to call this stuff out when we see it."

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RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 16/08/2020 23:26

Thats a complete load of bollocks

Do they think its true?

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Branleuse · 16/08/2020 23:27

Things that didnt happen..

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Iminthewrongstory · 16/08/2020 23:27

Doesn't have the ring of veracity, does it?

I assume they are suggesting that his dying wish was for this missive to be passed to his mother and she, after a lifetime of silence, made it public.

Whoever created it thought that the mother was solely responsible for disciplining the child (very weak bit part from Dad there.)

Yeah, right.

You did well to resist posting 'LOL.'

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DontBeShelfish · 16/08/2020 23:29

Is there a way of refuting it, and then casually commenting "oh, has it not come out that this is fake?" with a link. Passive aggressive, sure.

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Iminthewrongstory · 16/08/2020 23:35

There is a similar letter on Snopes.com
www.snopes.com/fact-check/letter-death-row-inmate/

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Girlzroolz · 16/08/2020 23:46

Yep, always check Snopes.com for this stuff. My mum (75) complains I lose her all her friends on Facebook by ‘embarrassing her’ with ‘that website’ Grin

If truth hurts, then call me satisfied. Posting (and reposting) harmful claptrap is the bane of my existence.

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Iminthewrongstory · 16/08/2020 23:50

I don't do it very often but once in a while I will respond with a 'If I'm not mistaken this article was debunked (provide link) just in case you want to double-check.'

And some people do quite a nice 'ooops, should have checked, etc.' and take it down.

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stumbledin · 17/08/2020 00:22

I would just commiserate with them, saying if that's how they feel their life must be one long drudgery as by their logic women not only have to lead their own life by lead other's for them.

This is the same male blame game of "she made me do it" that men say about rape, domestic violence, etc., etc..

And in this particular "story" the obvious question is where was the father? Why isn't he to blame.

The worse thing is that there are still a lot of women that think like this. Men / boys all have a "good" reason for not being able to behave like responsible adults. It is one of the reasons in rape trials the prosecutors dread women being on the jury.

Classic male privilege, which men assume without thinking, and too many women prop up.

And is of course a fake to just try and make women feel guilty.
www.snopes.com/fact-check/letter-death-row-inmate/

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Durgasarrow · 17/08/2020 02:42

I would also say that this sounds exactly like the kind of pathetic excuse a true criminal would give for his actionsinstead of taking any responsibility for the vicious acts he freely committed with his own hands, which he shows in this very letter that he knows are wronghe blames his mother. If he didn't like the way she raised him, why didn't he take his adult free will and do something better? Otherwise, why should he blame her--maybe she raised him the way she did because of the way her parents raised HER.

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Ritascornershop · 17/08/2020 03:00

Very misogynist and depressing that they’re dim enough to believe this actually happened. Aside from anything else, America (where they have death row) uses the spelling mom, not mum.

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Burnout101 · 17/08/2020 04:28

Quite apart from how shitty and misogynistic it is, surely if he's not responsible for his actions because his mother should have raised him better then the mother isn't responsible either, her mother should have raised her better and so on and so on? He'd better get writing to Eve then but I think she's already had some flack for being responsible for a man's actions Grin

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FWRLurker · 17/08/2020 06:56

So your colleagues are in favor of corporal punishment if children? K

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JulesCobb · 17/08/2020 08:22

One shares nonsense posts quite a lot. I don’t think should would have actually believed it was literally true, but she must have supported the sentiment to repost. That’s what is making me so annoyed. With the very serious position she has at work, believing men are not responsible for their own actions is very, very worrying.

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ArabellaScott · 17/08/2020 08:49

Absolute and complete bollocks.

Also, fwiw, evidence has comprehensively shown that violence is really not the best way to raise a child. So the idea that parents should beat a child in order to make it behave well is tosh through and through.

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MistyGreenAndBlue · 17/08/2020 10:31

You may borrow this. Grin

Facebook nonsense has just wound me right up
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VirginiaComet · 17/08/2020 11:21

I'd be tempted to post disingenuously: "Thanks very much for sharing this glaring faked example of misogyny. Good to call this stuff out when we see it."

[applauds]

I know the Bible can be used to justify literally anything but this kind of proof-texting makes me so mad!

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