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Trans clinics warn on rise in regret Australian - Monday, 3 Aug 2020

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VortexofBloggery · 04/08/2020 15:16

This clipping is from the August 3 issue of The Australian Digital Edition. To subscribe, visit www.theaustralian.com.au/.


Trans clinics warn on rise in regret
Australian - Monday, 3 Aug 2020 - Page 7

Youth gender clinics in Melbourne and London have acknowledged the possibility of online social contagion being a driver of the exponential increase in teenagers identifying as transgender and seeking hormonal treatment.

In a new paper for the Journal of the American Medical Association , researchers who champion “gender affirming” treatment report a link between 2614 positive trans items in mainstream media from 2009-2016 and new referrals to these two clinics one to three weeks later.

They admit “a lack of evidence” to explain the global surge in patients but suggest media coverage may prompt young people to explore “longstanding feelings of gender diversity” and alert them to treatment for gender dysphoria (distress at feeling “born in the wrong body” ).

However, the researchers acknowledge the risk highlighted by critics of the gender-affirming approach that social media “might act as a double-edged sword or a means of social contagion” , making some young people “erroneously come to believe (their) non-specific emotional or bodily distress is due to gender dysphoria and being (trans)”.

The JAMA paper cites historic low rates of treatment regret among former patients but calls for vigilance “to observe whether regret rates increase in the face of greater media attention and more referrals” .

The British government’s Tavistock clinic has reported a 4400 per cent increase in patients born female from 2008-2018 , and there has been a 1767 per cent rise in new referrals (55 per cent female) at the Royal Children’s Hospital clinic in Melbourne from 2012-2019 . Similar trends have been reported in other major cities around the world.

Clinical psychologist Dianna Kenny, a former professor at the University of Sydney and a gender affirming critic, said social contagion was an obvious risk.

“Adolescent social contagion has been pretty well irrefutably established in patterns of marijuana use, eating disorders, nonsuicidal self-harm and suicide,” she said.

“The point is that adolescents are very susceptible to social contagion because it’s at that stage of the life span that peer influence becomes extremely important.”

Gender affirming clinicians say that children as young as three are “experts” in knowing their innermost “gender identity” , even if it’s at odds with their biological sex.


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truthisarevolutionaryact · 04/08/2020 15:37

Adolescent social contagion has been pretty well irrefutably established in patterns of marijuana use, eating disorders, nonsuicidal self-harm and suicide she said.

THIS

We know this, parents know it, adults working with teenagers know this, medics know this. Yet we have allowed adults with a personal stake in trans identities and zero professional knowledge or insight to determine the medical treatment of children. And everyone capitulated because of the bullying and intimidation used. Nobody managed to centre the needs of children in all this - until now when it's too late for thousands of children.

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ShagMeRiggins · 04/08/2020 15:44

Gender affirming clinicians say that children as young as three are “experts” in knowing their innermost “gender identity” , even if it’s at odds with their biological sex.

Who are these people? I am so sick of this shit.

By all means let’s have meaningful discussions and/or pathways and treatments for adults, but keep children out of it.

Three fucking years old.

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334bu · 04/08/2020 16:41

Seems like a report showing mental health improvement after GRS published in American Journal of Psychiatry is having to change its conclusions.

mobile.twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1290122158786502657

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334bu · 04/08/2020 16:51

They have also published a series of questions on the original report. Titles in this twitter thread:
mobile.twitter.com/ZaneEmma/status/1290022714040651776

Maybe gender reassignment isn't a panacea after all?

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sultanasofa · 04/08/2020 17:32

Here's a link to the paper referenced in The Australian:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2768726
and the accompanying invited commentary:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2768720
which both seem to be open access.

The increase in referrals is largely presented as being a good thing in both the research paper and the commentary. For example:
'Media coverage focused on TGD issues, especially when educating about specialized gender care, may serve a crucial role in normalizing gender diversity.... Furthermore, the study highlights that identifying specialized care is an important role of media so that legitimate and trusted care can be made known and accessible....It identifies a potentially rich area of study for developing new strategies to identify, understand, and anticipate the needs of marginalized groups and to meet their needs for care and support.'

Pang KC, de Graaf NM, Chew D, et al. Association of Media Coverage of Transgender and Gender Diverse Issues With Rates of Referral of Transgender Children and Adolescents to Specialist Gender Clinics in the UK and Australia. JAMA Netw Open. 2020;3(7):e2011161. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2020.11161

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Impatiens · 04/08/2020 18:02

Gender affirming clinicians say that children as young as three are “experts” in knowing their innermost “gender identity” , even if it’s at odds with their biological sex

These are dreadful people, I hope they all end up in court.

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Aroundtheworldin80moves · 04/08/2020 18:10

Children believe what adults tell them. Tell a three year old that only boys like trucks or only girls like dolls, they may well believe that they are the opposite gender. I saw it in my own child... She would stuff like 'im a boy today because I'm playing dinosaurs'. I told her girls can like dinosaurs too, and Mummy liked dinosaurs... And now she is a happy 7yo who believes she can play with any toy she likes and wants to be an explorer or Paleontologist when she grows up... And have babies with a SAHD.

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Mumzuki · 04/08/2020 18:27

That 4400% increase tells us exactly the value that we place on women and girls. How have we created a society that makes growing up female such a horrific experience? And if there had been an equivalent increase in the number of boys seeking gender reaffirmation or reassignment, how would we be reacting? Because I’m pretty sure we’d be trying to change the society, not rushing to change the boys - and that feminists would be being blamed for causing the problem, instead of being blamed for naming it.

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