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"Trans extremists are putting equality at risk"

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MsMarvellous Wed 22-Jul-20 06:30:32

Saw this article linked to on twitter but I'm not a Times subscriber. Does anyone have a share token so I can read more than the first two paragraphs?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-extremists-are-putting-equality-at-risk-fjv8skwz0

The headline seems like something I maybe brave enough to share socially

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Igneococcus Wed 22-Jul-20 06:34:59

Here:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0fe1693a-d56f-11e8-926d-96790161a92a?shareToken=dd4b678d298dcbb46ec4b5e0c535eae8

Collidascope Wed 22-Jul-20 06:35:13

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0fe1693a-d56f-11e8-926d-96790161a92a?shareToken=9c5002f8e0f5729a0f7a617b9a1b5d87

Kit19 Wed 22-Jul-20 07:20:52

I don’t think it’s the best article, it’s a bit all over the place & talks about gender as a protected characteristic but the central tenant, if you can self ID as a woman, why not somone with a disability or as somone from a different race, is sound. It’s utterly bonkers that only one protected characteristic is deemed unworthy of basically being protected.....

testing987654321 Wed 22-Jul-20 07:27:23

The problem is this: if self-declaration becomes established as a principle for one protected characteristic * gender* * why should it not apply to all of the other eight, including disability or race?*

So does he mean the protected characteristic of "gender reassignment" or is he using gender in place of sex?

DurtySarf Wed 22-Jul-20 07:29:22

I thought it was a new article, just realised it's from 2018.

boatyardblues Wed 22-Jul-20 07:37:29

So close, Trevor, so close. It was a shame he used gender all the way though instead of sex, but he was in the right ballpark. Kind of depressing to see that was published in 2018 and we are still entertaining the notion that self-identifying into another protected group is acceptable.

ThinEndoftheWedge Wed 22-Jul-20 08:11:39

One sentence explaining sex vs gender would have been helpful.

Glad to see it’s in 2018 - another canary in the coal mine.

MsMarvellous Wed 22-Jul-20 08:21:31

So not much use then. Thanks everyone! That's what I get for twittering at 6am when the cat wakes me up and before coffee!!

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wellbehavedwomen Wed 22-Jul-20 08:21:59

He wrote it a couple of years ago - since then he's been suspended from the Labour party. They're still investigating, and have accused him of Islamophobia. Partly because he spoke out on the child grooming scandal.

He was the first chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission. He's presently head of the Index on Censorship.

TheRealMcKenna Wed 22-Jul-20 08:44:07

I agree with most of the article, but this bit made me chuckle:

It is hard to see how the law could resist the claims of a man who, despite all medical advice to the contrary, decides that he is mentally disabled, and therefore should be eligible for disability benefits and time off work. The human and financial costs would be horrendous.

Does he not realise that this is already happening and has been for many years?

ThinEndoftheWedge Wed 22-Jul-20 09:25:32

A thread on twitter about this article also had this clip of Layla Moran. A good example of someone harming transpeople who respects facts and the needs of women and girls.

How any ‘self respecting’ politician expects anyone with any sense to vote for them I have no idea.

mobile.twitter.com/LBC/status/1285665331877486594

QuentinWinters Wed 22-Jul-20 09:56:07

I think it's a good article and interesting from someone who wrote the equality act. I like the fact he uses examples of people identifying as a different race to illustrate the point. Thanks for sharing.

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