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The Trans Lobby Will Not Bully Me Into Silence

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Dances Thu 09-Jul-20 08:09:58

DM Article
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8503283/The-trans-lobby-bully-silence.html#reader-comments

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classicspring Thu 09-Jul-20 08:18:02

**and even broadcaster Jonathan Ross (who came out in support of Rowling, only to bow out of the debate after his daughter gave him a stern talking to).

This made me laugh.
More lawsuits. The walls are crumbling.

FantaOra Thu 09-Jul-20 08:18:12

‘She?! I’m not she, you f***ing c**! My pronouns are they.’*

This nasty behaviour sums up the whole student non binary cohort.

Winesalot Thu 09-Jul-20 08:20:36

Good to see Raquel getting some more space. Thanks Dances

HandsOffMyRights Thu 09-Jul-20 08:23:21

I admire her for speaking out.

The same cannot be said for Bristol Uni.

classicspring Thu 09-Jul-20 08:27:49

^^and supporters of Mx Aaron were outraged by the university’s decision to investigate Raquel’s complaint at all.

Of course they were. hmm

justanotherneighinparadise Thu 09-Jul-20 08:32:23

Wow!!! That’s fucking appalling!! Kids are spending an absolute fortune to attend university and getting met with baseball bat weilding, balaclava wearing sociopaths and that’s okay?! Fucking hell.

justanotherneighinparadise Thu 09-Jul-20 08:34:14

Bet that’s not on the prospectus grin

nauticant Thu 09-Jul-20 08:41:06

A useful article. It shows the Daily Mail are getting to grips with how to report this issue to their audience:

The issue is complex, but in its simplest terms, the trans lobby believes those who self-identify as women are women, and to challenge this is transphobic.

Some feminist campaigners argue that allowing self-identification is dangerous as it could potentially be abused by men to gain access to female-only spaces.

Last month, author JK Rowling became the latest high-profile person to be branded a TERF after defending the notion that while gender can be chosen, the sex we’re born with cannot.

teawamutu Thu 09-Jul-20 08:44:31

Comments, as usual, firmly non-TRA (although a few of the downvoted ones are not exactly feminist either).

I believe RRS is still in need of gardening support, isn't she?

Beebeet Thu 09-Jul-20 08:46:04

It's pathetic isn't it, and these people are released into the workplace and feel like they can still dictate how others must feel about issues without impunity. Universities have a responsibility, they shouldn't be effectively backing this kind of stuff, but teaching young adults that it's important to stand up for what you believe in- but not in this manner. If there was something towards men, no way would it be allowed to happen. I'm glad I went when university wasn't like this. Plenty of healthy debates, lots of societies, but none of this ridiculousness.

northstars Thu 09-Jul-20 08:55:21

This post has been hidden until the MNHQ team can have a look at it.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse Thu 09-Jul-20 08:59:36

If you'd like to donate to her Crowdjustice crowd funder you can google Raquel's name, it's easy to find.

The DM article reminded me to donate.

RoyalCorgi Thu 09-Jul-20 09:21:36

Excellent article from the Mail. Their coverage puts the Guardian to shame. Why isn't the Guardian (and the Independent and the BBC for that matter) covering the story of a black female PhD student being bullied by fellow students while her university stands by and does nothing?

gardenbird48 Thu 09-Jul-20 09:32:10

RRS's situation is so shocking - I have read about her before and she also came up in relation to the research I was doing on a recent MN thread about the NHS trans/womens policy in the South West, affecting Somerset, Devon and Cornwall.
A key figure in the policy setting is Cheryl Morgan, a trans person with arrests for criminal damage (and apparently other things but I couldn't find it recorded anywhere so I'm not including that). Cheryl Morgan is quite busy in activism and her blog has some very unpleasant posts about women (the usual delightful articles like 'Dealing with a t**f Infestation' etc.) She also used her radio show to encourage supporters to protest the WPUK meeting that RRS attended and was quite pleased with the turnout.
This person was also a speaker at The Great Menopause Event (on the basis that they have been taking cross sex hormones for 5 years - the newspaper report about their arrest for criminal damage in 2015 refers to mh issues due to the process of transitioning) and hosts a regular radio called Women's Outlook. I am so horrified at the idea of her setting policy that affects every NHS service for women in the South West (see other MN thread - I can't work out how to link to it). I have written to them to express my concerns. Is this one for the list of 'it will never happen'? This male born person seems to have created many positions of influence for themselves on issues that directly affect women.

gardenbird48 Thu 09-Jul-20 09:33:44

oops, not intending to derail the conversation about RRS but trying to reinforce the insidiousness and reach of her opponents and what she is facing in Bristol.

RadandMad Thu 09-Jul-20 09:38:19

Good article. Does anyone know anything about the C4 documentary that it referenced?

Dances Thu 09-Jul-20 09:41:23

Was is not Stella O'Malley's programme?

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PearPickingPorky Thu 09-Jul-20 09:51:54

Dances

Was is not Stella O'Malley's programme?

Trans Kids: It's Time to Talk

peadarm Thu 09-Jul-20 10:11:42

www.channel4.com/programmes/trans-kids-its-time-to-talk

ChakaDakotaRegina Thu 09-Jul-20 10:25:08

FantaOra

*‘She?! I’m not she, you f***ing c***! My pronouns are they.’*

This nasty behaviour sums up the whole student non binary cohort.

Yep - a protester (in a mask to hide their identity) still expects their preferred identity pronouns to be known and used...

TheSingingKettle49 Thu 09-Jul-20 10:47:48

The thing that strikes me with the protestors and #nodebate and acceptance without exception, is that if they think that what feminists are meeting to discuss is just transphobia and that they have no reasonable arguments then why go to such lengths to disrupt the meetings? Why not let them speak and let people see that they’re just ‘hateful’?

I’m sure most reasonable people can see that what they’re trying to do is silence women because they know if they speak then people will see the arguments against self-ID have merit.

Evelefteden Thu 09-Jul-20 10:51:09

At last it’s all starting to crumble.

peadarm Thu 09-Jul-20 11:24:22

“ Yep - a protester (in a mask to hide their identity) still expects their preferred identity pronouns to be known and used..”

The main pronouns appear to be I, me, and mine.

highame Thu 09-Jul-20 11:25:24

just funded, without the fee for Crowd Justice. I do hope all of these lawsuits stop tumbling forth - will have to re-mortgage the house😁
They should be bearing fruit soon

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