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DreadPirateLuna Wed 08-Jul-20 14:10:56

Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somali-born writer and activist against FGM and child marriage (among other things) has spoken out in support of JKR:
twitter.com/Ayaan/status/1280716418460209152

One of the first responses accuses her of cis privilege!

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Collidascope Wed 08-Jul-20 14:13:32

Good for her.
I see Katy Montgomery is there too, brandishing that omnipresent essay again.

YetAnotherSpartacus Wed 08-Jul-20 14:13:37

Oh Lordy - and it's from a poster with BLM in their title!

lady69 Wed 08-Jul-20 14:15:46

Brilliant from her.

And there is never debate with these people responding, just accusations of “privilege” and wrongthink. We see them. They have no response BUT slurs. They have lost the argument.

DianasLasso Wed 08-Jul-20 14:24:14

Well said, Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

I read her book The Caged Virgin a number of years back. Must catch up with her more recent stuff.

And she's a prime example of why the "for us or agin us" nonsense of the twittersphere doesn't work. I agree with a lot of what she has to say on women's rights. I probably disagree with some of her politics. AFAIK, she's moderately right of centre.

(As a bit of an aside, I was amused to read an article by her husband, the right-of-centre economic historian Niall Ferguson, in which he mentioned - in the context of agreeing to disagree even with your nearest and dearest in the spirit of open and healthy debate - that Ayaan was pro Brexit, and he was a Remainer! So I would imagine dinner time conversations have given both of them plenty of practice in the art of disagreeing with someone without descending into cancel culture.)

BentBastard Wed 08-Jul-20 14:26:04

DreadPirateLuna

Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somali-born writer and activist against FGM and child marriage (among other things) has spoken out in support of JKR:
https://twitter.com/Ayaan/status/1280716418460209152

One of the first responses accuses her of cis privilege!



Wow, takes some bottle telling a black woman off for privilege!

OliveKitteridgeAgain Wed 08-Jul-20 14:29:00

AHA has steel ovaries. She's taken on radical Islam. I doubt she will be cowed by a few blue haired numties.

RoyalCorgi Wed 08-Jul-20 14:37:52

Not at all surprised that Ali supports JKR. She doesn't take any shit. In any case, telling a woman who has been through female genital mutilation that being a woman is just a feeling in your head is so insensitive it beggars belief. (Except it doesn't, because TRAs really are that clueless.)

I heartily recommend Ali's memoir Infidel, by the way.

TheRealMcKenna Wed 08-Jul-20 14:39:30

Isn’t AHA the person that Linda Sarsour said didn’t deserve her vagina?

PerkingFaintly Wed 08-Jul-20 14:42:18

Wow, takes some bottle telling a black woman off for privilege!

You're assuming it's an actual person not a troll account.

BLM and trans stuff both feature highly in completely fake accounts started by malicious actors who don't believe their own tweets. Just doing it to troll the snowflakes, cause disruption, increase division... whatever.

It's such a common troll combo I'm now automatically suspicious of certain sorts of accounts.

FWRLurker Wed 08-Jul-20 14:42:23

One of the first responses accuses her of cis privilege!

Disgusting misogyny.

There is no “privilege” To experiencing FGM and forced marriage.

AHA has was long ago excommunicated from the left Because she interprets Islam to be at the root of her oppression - which is totally her experience and valid! I personally wouldn’t go quite as far as her (I don’t think everyone who wears Hijab is brainwashed), but I do think that being Muslim and being Christian do tend to bring with them some aspects of gender roles and patriarchy that can be problematic. Not every individual Believer to be sure, but overall all religions were established in patriarchy and bring with them that baggage.

OliveKitteridgeAgain Wed 08-Jul-20 14:43:37

Yup

twitter.com/UmmAlMumineen/status/1058401456552886272

PerkingFaintly Wed 08-Jul-20 14:43:45

(That was about the anonymous Twitter account accusing her of cis privilege.)

OliveKitteridgeAgain Wed 08-Jul-20 14:44:37

That was addressed to TheRealMcKenna

TheRealMcKenna Wed 08-Jul-20 14:47:46

OliveKitteridgeAgain Thanks. I knew LS had made some really vile comment, but couldn’t remember to whom she was referring.

Whatsnewpussyhat Wed 08-Jul-20 14:49:20

I see Katy Montgomery is there too, brandishing that omnipresent essay again

Bloody tedious. It's like they sit watching all day so they can be first in on the comments everytime. It's just waffle.

BentBastard Wed 08-Jul-20 14:52:11

PerkingFaintly

^Wow, takes some bottle telling a black woman off for privilege!^

You're assuming it's an actual person not a troll account.

BLM and trans stuff both feature highly in completely fake accounts started by malicious actors who don't believe their own tweets. Just doing it to troll the snowflakes, cause disruption, increase division... whatever.

It's such a common troll combo I'm now automatically suspicious of certain sorts of accounts.



Yes I confess, I tend to take tweets at face value unless I have reason to think otherwise. I'm probably quite Twitter naive compared to many on here.

BentBastard Wed 08-Jul-20 14:55:40

As an anonymous Tweeter (because of my job) with few followers (because I don't really tout for them and most people don't follow back) I hate the assumption that anonymous with few followers = troll

PerkingFaintly Wed 08-Jul-20 15:03:09

I hate the assumption that anonymous with few followers = troll

Eh? Is anyone making that assumption. I'm not.

The anonymous Twitter account which has successfully baited people on this thread has a combination of markers which make me think it exists to... bait sincere people like those on this thread.

It's like spotting trolls on MN. And like troll-hunting on MN, I could be wrong.

PerkingFaintly Wed 08-Jul-20 15:05:07

I don't want to labour the topic here, because this thread was supposed to be about Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

I just didn't want to see it derailed from the start by what looks (IMHO) to be a professional derailer on Twitter.

northstars Wed 08-Jul-20 15:11:15

She is an amazing woman! SO pleased to see this!

PurpleHoodie Wed 08-Jul-20 15:13:28

What Olive said.

NonnyMouse1337 Wed 08-Jul-20 15:16:22

Seeing the shit thrown J K Rowling's way and she still stepped up to the plate and tweeted her support - massive respect to the woman!

I think she didn't get on well with some of the other Ex-Muslims activists, but she definitely doesn't take shit from anyone, so I'm really pleased to see her make a stand. Hopefully she doesn't backtrack!

PurpleHoodie Wed 08-Jul-20 15:20:03

WhatsNew

Saddo male basement prats/paid for their time bots /paid for their time political bots/general saddos and sociopaths.

It's a recurring action on MN FWR by inadequate who put girls and women down. Not necessarily on this thread; but many.

PurpleHoodie Wed 08-Jul-20 15:21:16

"inadequates"

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