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Just stuck my head above the parapet

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justforthecake Sat 04-Jul-20 13:35:39

Trying not to panic but I couldn't take it anymore.

Youth movement Facebook page- worldwide membership.
Several woke bloke posts this week about LGBTQI spaghetti and I just snapped.
Full of stuff like assigned at birth, same gender attraction- enough was enough.

I have pushed back privately and had my voice heard by HQ about not recommending mermaids for guidance but this is individual leaders posting.

All male funnily enough, and their Facebook posts they have made public are very fuck TERFs and I hate JK etc.

I worry for our young people

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Apileofballyhoo Sat 04-Jul-20 13:40:29

Hope it goes ok. Thank you for speaking out. It takes courage.

AnotherLass Sat 04-Jul-20 13:54:24

Well done.

justforthecake Sat 04-Jul-20 13:58:44

Nope just been called a transphobe and that I should educate myself but a middle ages white bloke

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feetfreckles Sat 04-Jul-20 14:11:39

Ah, a man telling you what a woman is

justforthecake Sat 04-Jul-20 14:24:13

It's all men.
If I'm not LBGTQ then I shouldn't comment.
What would I do if my child 'came out' as trans etc etc

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merrymouse Sat 04-Jul-20 15:17:33

Ask them how they know which people to sterilise, and whether they check their gender identity.

Beamur Sat 04-Jul-20 15:21:49

Are the men criticising you LGBTQ? If not, where is their agency to comment coming from?

justforthecake Sat 04-Jul-20 15:40:23

No idea. I couldn't care less what their sexuality is. They are touting resources to use to talk about LGBTQI+++ with young people. Assigned at birth is the correct medical terminology, same gendered attraction is the term for gay. Women who are attracted to women for lesbian but given the raging misogyny on display they don't get points for that.
It so quickly escalated to transphobe because I said I didn't feel LGB should be paired with T&Q.

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Socrates11 Sat 04-Jul-20 15:45:10

Ahhh, women can't comment on any of the alphabet stuff but men can say what women are even when it defies logic, evidence and reason...that old chestnut. Do as I say not as I convenient.

Weeeeeell don't act all surprised when women tell you no, fuck off. Repeatedly. We are not negotiating any longer...if we ever were on this issue those days are gone.

merrymouse Sat 04-Jul-20 15:56:06

It so quickly escalated to transphobe because I said I didn't feel LGB should be paired with T&Q.

Have they explained why they should be linked?

Socrates11 Sat 04-Jul-20 16:10:05

Sums it up for me...

senua Sat 04-Jul-20 16:23:11

It seems to me that all this alphabet-spaghetti stuff has been big news recently because of Pride month. We need a women's month (ironic, huh?grin ) so we get our chance to have our voice heard.
It also seems to me that Pride has been taken up so enthusiastically by commercial concerns because it nicely fills the long gap between Easter-tat and Halloween-tat.

Well done for popping your head over the parapet, OP. If enough do it then the message might eventually get through.

JemimaShore Sat 04-Jul-20 16:33:21

*All male funnily enough, and their Facebook posts they have made
public are very fuck TERFs and I hate JK etc.*

Of course - so many men queuing up for this golden opportunity to bash women, and look woke at the same time. How could they possibly pass that up?

Post this.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons Sat 04-Jul-20 16:36:46

Well done for raising your voice I known the response was awful but the important thing was that you spoke up flowers

When I find myself wavering/scared I ask myself what I will tell my daughters about what I did while they were being stripped of their rights...

Babdoc Sat 04-Jul-20 16:42:38

Tell these arrogant men that women’s rights are not theirs to give away. They have no skin in the game, it’s not their safety and privacy under threat. “You no play da game, you no make da rules”.
I am beyond sick of men trying to tell women what a woman is, spouting complete woke nonsense and demanding we give up everything we spent the last century fighting for. They can all just fuck off.

EmpressLangClegSpartacus Sat 04-Jul-20 16:48:34

same gendered attraction is the term for gay

Well, this lesbian says that anyone who says that is a fucking homophobe.

Sillydoggy Sat 04-Jul-20 16:49:07

Remember all the people who are watching them attack you and see you speaking up. You will be inspiring others.

justforthecake Sat 04-Jul-20 18:35:54

Well I blocked the bastards and after thinking a bit more left the group.

They didn't even engage in what I was saying and were trying to gotcha me into saying something that would get me excommunicated.

I just can't agree that we should be teaching anyone that to be happy and accepted you have to change everything you are and fit yourself into a stereotype. How is that inclusive?
Really how does the T fit with LGB?
Why can't people see it doesn't?

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Kljnmw3459 Sat 04-Jul-20 18:42:03

Well done for stepping up like that! After the jkr thing I reactivated my Twitter and have started learning more. I've only got as far as following some gender critical people and liking their tweets. It's just madness out there.

ValancyRedfern Sat 04-Jul-20 19:23:48

Well done. It's rough out there. But there will be at least one person who's had a light bulb moment reading your comments.

ladyslattern Sat 04-Jul-20 20:18:54

Well done for sticking your head over the parapet. I want transwomen to be safe, to love, to live, to have security but I feel that I'm told my femaleness means nothing because being a woman is nothing to do with biology. My middle aged woman's body that has seen me through the most profound moments of my life, that has been the source of my joy, my fear, my decline and is the reason for some of the things I need. Now I'm told to think like this is HATEFUL and that want to ERASE transwomen . Women are women, transwomen are transwomen. I accept transwomen need protection and their needs to be accommodated but don't take mine away to do it.

TehBewilderness Sat 04-Jul-20 21:02:35

Thanks for standing up and speaking out, justforthecake.

Transgender advocacy maintains the social hierarchy while redefining homophobia and misogyny as progressive.
Nothing makes that clearer than a bunch of MRAs on Facebook.

StuntNun Sat 04-Jul-20 22:54:00

I'm in that group too @justforthecake it was a fun conversation wasn't it? hmm I think it's one person in particular who has been posting a lot for Pride month.

JemimaShore Sat 04-Jul-20 23:46:42

Well done for speaking up OP - it can feel like an onslaught against you, but rest assured, people will have seen and noticed.

Every person that speaks up helps the tide turn.

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