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Birthing people

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purplefig · 22/06/2020 20:46

I haven’t heard this one yet!

From a company that makes its money selling hypnobirthing to women no less. Sorry, birthing people.

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ThinEndoftheWedge · 22/06/2020 21:00

I read that as a midwife remembering their own birth.

I don’t remember my birth and it really doesn't matter.

It really does matter to new mothers if you erase their womanhood.

Idiots.

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OhHolyJesus · 22/06/2020 21:38

Or

The way that birthing a person is remembered.

I remember birthing a person. It fucking hurt.

Stick that on your watercolour and hang I'm in the downstairs loo.

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merrymouse · 22/06/2020 21:44

I'm confused - Is this about people being hypnotised so that they remember their own birth?

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merrymouse · 22/06/2020 21:45

Hypnotising midwives and gynaecologists perhaps?

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Mamette · 22/06/2020 21:46

Matters deeply surely.

Not β€œdeeply matters”. Deeply isn’t even a good adverb here.

As for the rest of it Confused

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purplefig · 22/06/2020 21:48

No despite the name, hypnobirthing doesn’t have anything to do with being hypnotised.

I’ve actually done the course (which is how I spotted this). I thought it had a lot of sound information, especially the science section which goes into anatomy and the mechanics of birth. Which is actually quite funny given that post.

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Thelnebriati · 22/06/2020 21:53

IMVFHO, this isn't a convincing ad for a process that depends on giving clear instructions.

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WhatTiggersDoBest · 22/06/2020 22:10

Oh FFS. Hmm
I mean if they want to appeal to only five potential customers, why don't they just sell them on cassette tape instead and save themselves the trouble?
I did see lately an advert for one of those grammar checking computer thingies that was using a "consider using gender-neutral language" angle in their advert to show how woke they were. It makes me think this sort of clunky wording in advertising copy is probably just the new equivalent of people religiously accepting what their spellchecker had to say 10 years ago. Or driving into the sea courtesy of sat-nav 5 years ago. Hopefully it'll blow over soon.

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Heartlake · 22/06/2020 22:13

I've fixed it for them:

"The way that women remember giving birth really matters."

That's better. (Even if it's not entirely grammatically correct.)

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northstars · 22/06/2020 22:28

I just had a look on their Instagram and this is one of their replies to someone - β€œyou’ll be happy to know medical settings acknowledge birthing people and seek to use appropriate language. Medical settings (where birth often takes place) recognise that trans men can give birth and that not everyone identifies as a woman. If you need some help with educational resources, we’ll be more than happy to signpost you” ...... Shock

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northstars · 22/06/2020 22:30

Thank goodness I had my children before I could be referred to as a β€œbirthing person”!

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aliasundercover · 22/06/2020 22:32

From their webpage:
We are committed to empowering women around the world - and their birth partners - to create positive birth experiences and supporting women in pregnancy, birth and beyond.

Transphobes!

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newrubylane · 22/06/2020 22:36

To be fair to the Positive Birth Company, they refer to 'women' all over their Facebook page, so I think at worst they have just not thought about the conotations of this. This is apparently a re-share of an Instagram post by someone called Kiki the Doula.

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blubellsarebells · 23/06/2020 00:40

I didnt actually give birth as i ended up having an emergency csection.
Am I a birthing person?
I dont remember my own birth, it was 35 years ago.

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ShinyFootball · 23/06/2020 00:47

Getting the baby out is giving birth no matter what some people would say!

The language is fucked though.

A birthing person sounds like they are doing it NOW. If a person is looking back, then they aren't birthing are they. They are s person who has given birth.

Definitely sounds like it's the baby rembering their own birth!

Who needs clarity of language eh? When something more important is at stake ie obliterating the word woman and describing us by our bodily (reproductive) functions instead.

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