Did anyone else hear this on The Unbelievable Truth?

[GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal]

On R4, David Mitchell introducing Frankie Boyle: "Frankie, your subject is women. Women are adult female human beings."



You can't say that on the BBC David!!

Someone on that show must be on our side.

[whensmynexthol1day]

There was quite a good segment on the news quiz (r4) on Saturday which also acknowledged both sides of the argument in a way that didn't actually make my blood boil! Hopefully signs the tide is turning.

[GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal]

News Quiz finished recently, which episode was it?

I'm still very chuffed that, on a show all about telling truth from lies, they categorically stated that women are adult human females.

I wonder if they've had complaints?

[Helmetbymidnight]

thats interesting, esp because frankie boyle is very unsympathetic to feminist concerns..,was it said as a jokey wind-up to him perhaps?

[GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal]

Didn't seem to be. Said very matter-of-factly.

[Helmetbymidnight]

excellent!

[JemimaShore]

Excellent!

One of the sketch shows covered JK Rowling - which I thought was pretty brave! I can't decide whether it was a bit silly, or really clever to be able to cover it at all.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000k2cj

Fast forward to 9:50

[SmiledWithTheRisingSun]

"Hopefully signs the tide is turning" - let's hope so @whensmynexthol1day 🙌👍

[yetanotherusernameAgain]

I think it's part of the format that the presenter defines the subject that the panellist is about to talk about, ie gives a dictionary definition.

[thethoughtfox]

Which episode is it ?

[AdultFishcakes]

@thethoughtfox

Which episode is it ?

Try this; should work (on the BBC Sounds App)

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000kmk3

[AdultHumanFemale]

If only! At 13:44;
"Next up is Sarah Pascoe. Sarah, your subject is Men; adult male human beings. Fingers on buzzers."
Frankie's subject was Experiments.
I listened to it while washing up and thought "Well, I've always liked David Mitchell." But I'm not surprised, given his connection with Robert Webb.

[BobbieDraper]

When the unbelievable truth introduce a topic to a panelist, they read out the dictionary definition of the topic. Until the dictionary definition changes, that will be what they use.

I dont think it's quite as political a statement as some people want to make it out to be.

[SerenityNowwwww]

I was listening to a BBC podcast the other day (a factual show) and heard someone say something like ‘man - adult male human’. I almost fell off my chair.

[AdultHumanFemale]

Whoa! Just spotted that the OP is from June, and apologies OP, you're right! We both are He did it twice, Women in Episode 1 and Men this week. Ha ha!

[AdultHumanFemale]

Bobbie, I like to think it's a coup, and it's irreproachable, as the dictionary definition is, as you say, always used. With the dictionary definition of Woman being so inflammatory, this is a perfect frame for broadcasting it during prime listening time. A little nod to frustrated GC feminists everywhere. After all, it is all about surreptitiously smuggling facts...
I'd love to think it's not a coincidence; RW totally gets it, and I can't imagine that the two of them haven't had this convo. I can imagine RW saying "Go on, Dave, it's all very well you agreeing with me here over a coffee in my front room. I've stuck my neck in the line for years, and it's about time you stepped up! I dare you..."
Twice in a month isn't chance.

[thirdfiddle]

Ah here you are :)

Yes I heard the men one on the radio episode 4 and did a double take thinking hmm, that was a bit close to a statement of fact, wouldn't get away with that for women - then DH was listening to ep 1 and they already had.

So maybe revise it to wouldn't get away with that if you were female...

Oh, has RW spoken up too?

[thirdfiddle]

Yes, it is clever. Can't argue with it. If anyone even tries, they have to provide an alternative definition, which we all know they can't.

[BlackeyedSusan]

Unbelievable: Truth!

W=AHF

[MotherForkinShirtBalls]

I just posted this on the other thread, but Sara Pascoe, wokest of wokesters, seemed very clear on the differences 🤯

[Destroyedpeople]

I do like Mitchell. So dry and funny. Plus he and VCoren must have really amusing dinner parties...

[thirdfiddle]

Sorry for the thread confusion- I did search but apparently there are many threads about David Mitchell and MN search always seems to go for the 10 yr old ones first.