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newrubylane · 18/06/2020 14:53

Following on from the 1984 thread. I have noted a couple of other books were mentioned on there, which I plan to read. Does anyone have any other good recommendations on the topic - books or blogs etc?

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Deliriumoftheendless · 18/06/2020 15:42

Woman on the Edge of Time by Marge Piercy.

It’s not like 1984 but it’s a very interesting read. I read it in the late 90s and felt some of the dystopia bits were very near the knuckle.

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Ninkanink · 18/06/2020 15:53

J by Howard Jacobsen.

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Ninkanink · 18/06/2020 15:54

*Jacobson!

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20mum · 18/06/2020 19:42

Invisible women

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BolloxtoGender · 18/06/2020 22:19

Wild Swans

Gives an insight to how a whole country is brainwashed during the Cultural Revolution. Lots of Parallels and similarities with the woke mob rule dynamics, whipping up resentment, and attacking people in the name of the righteous cause. Label someone as a ‘capitalist’, publically denounce, letters of confessions, the Little Red Guards, Book of Mao s thoughts...and extended twisted interpretations of these, destroying traditions and anything ‘ OLD’ that represented the old order....The irony is that we are so arrogant, we think these sorts of things only happen to other people. But to me, the divisive identity politics is just like the Cultural Revolution.

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chipperfish · 18/06/2020 22:37

Connie Willis- some of her short, funny and well observed stories are very on point at the moment, particularly 'Ado' when you think about current speech and purity policing and 'Even the Queen' on biology and menstruation.

Plus The Doomsday book is very Corona topical

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endofthelinefinally · 18/06/2020 22:47

I have been advised to read
White Fragility
and
Women Race and Class.
Has anybody read these?

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endofthelinefinally · 18/06/2020 22:50

Robin de Angelo
Angela Davis ( authors)

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Freespeecher · 18/06/2020 22:55

Ah! I was going to ask for a recommendation for a Cultural Revolution suggestion and it looks like 'Wild Swans' is it.

I'll keep on banging the Solzhenitsyn drum and go with 'The Gulag Archipelago'.

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aliasundercover · 19/06/2020 00:18

The Dispossessed by Ursula K Le Guin

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TehBewilderness · 19/06/2020 01:58

Every word Ursula LeGuin ever wrote.

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Goosefoot · 19/06/2020 02:33

White Fragility isn't worth anyone's time. DiAngelo is the L. Ron Hubbard of identity politics.

Brave New world would be a good choice, though.

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endofthelinefinally · 19/06/2020 06:50

Thanks goosefoot.
I had a feeling that might be the case. Sad

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BolloxtoGender · 19/06/2020 08:20

@Freespeecher Yes. Alexander Solzynitsin. Good choice.

journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/03064220408537357

Short essay Live Not by Lies

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Ninkanink · 19/06/2020 19:24

Yes I really do need to read The Gulag Archipelago.

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endofthelinefinally · 19/06/2020 21:34

I read Cancer Ward when I was 17. Then A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch.
Made a lasting impression on me.
He was never allowed to collect his Pulitzer Prize. ( I think it was Pulitzer Prize).

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DidoLamenting · 19/06/2020 21:48

Nobel Prize, not Pulitzer.

It wasn't that he wasn't allowed to collect it but he feared that if he went to Stockholm he would be denied re-entry to the USSR.

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DaisiesandButtercups · 19/06/2020 21:55

We by Yevgeny Zamyatin

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endofthelinefinally · 19/06/2020 22:27

Thanks Dido
I remember listening to a radio documentary about him years ago. I misremembered the details.

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hoodathunkit · 21/06/2020 17:19

<a class="break-all" href="//www.amazon.co.uk/Nothing-True-Everything-Possible-Adventures/dp/0571338526/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&crid=3KR6A9P6FARH5&keywords=nothing%20is%20true%20and%20everything%20is%20possible&sprefix=nothing%20is%20%2Caps%2C176&qid=1592755202&sr=8-1&tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">//www.amazon.co.uk/Nothing-True-Everything-Possible-Adventures/dp/0571338526/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&crid=3KR6A9P6FARH5&keywords=nothing%20is%20true%20and%20everything%20is%20possible&sprefix=nothing%20is%20%2Caps%2C176&qid=1592755202&sr=8-1&tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21

absolutely essential reading

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hoodathunkit · 21/06/2020 17:21
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hoodathunkit · 21/06/2020 17:26

Pomerantsev describes how in Russia advertisments for secretaries and other administrative jobs include the words "no complexes" which translates as "must be willing to provide sexual favours to your employer".

a little sample

books.google.co.uk/books?id=Nb8pDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT11&lpg=PT11&dq=golddigger+academy+Pomerantsev&source=bl&ots=RM-g18KQlH&sig=ACfU3U1T8BwLH8UTWx9gGBiGkpu9vcN8Iw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjivqyhqZPqAhUaUhUIHVLkBDgQ6AEwCXoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=golddigger%20academy%20Pomerantsev&f=false

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sourdoughismyreligion · 21/06/2020 18:47

@Freespeecher

Ah! I was going to ask for a recommendation for a Cultural Revolution suggestion and it looks like 'Wild Swans' is it.

I'll keep on banging the Solzhenitsyn drum and go with 'The Gulag Archipelago'.

The abridged or the unabridged edition?
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Freespeecher · 21/06/2020 23:27

sourdoughismyreligion

Abridged! It's taking me a while to work my way through it, not sure I'd ever finished the unabridged version. Well worth it though.

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