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Is this advert transphobic?

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MarkRuffaloCrumble Fri 22-May-20 22:22:22

Someone alert the TRAs, this advert says that men have prostates.

Surely some women have prostates too? And some men don’t have prostates, either by being born with a uterus or from surgery. It’s outrageous that the ad is clearly marketed with the word MEN in the title!

Awaits TRA outrage....

Still waiting....

Tumbleweed.....

MarkRuffaloCrumble Fri 22-May-20 22:22:49

ad link

FlamingoAndJohn Fri 22-May-20 22:27:16

Well that’s just full of men isn’t it.
Not prostate havers.

Clymene Fri 22-May-20 22:34:44

I see Stephen Fry is a supporter. Stephen Fry who thinks that women don't deserve single sex spaces.

So Stephen knows someone with a prostate is a man but won't accept that the word woman refers to those of us with uteruses.

It is a mystery why the word men hasn't been replaced by people with prostates isn't it? I wonder why that might be? hmm

MarkRuffaloCrumble Fri 22-May-20 22:48:36

Hmmm who knows? I almost want to make an almighty fuss about it just to see what happens, but I’m not actually a prick who wants to sabotage a cancer charity. So I’ll stick to pointing it out here.

ScrimpshawTheSecond Fri 22-May-20 22:57:13

Wow, how many times can you even say 'men' in one advert.

Because of course as anyone with XY chromosomes will remain at risk for prostate cancer, and should also be encouraged to check, I would actually say that it's irresponsible and unfair not to include transwomen in these campaigns. Here actually an issue where ignoring and excluding transwomen will impact on their health, and nobody is up in arms.

JellySlice Sat 23-May-20 08:27:56

Depends on your definition of transphobia.

If your definition is 'not centring penis' then, no, it is not transphobic.

If your definition is 'dismissing the legitimate needs of trans-identified people', then, yes, it is transphobic.

Unfortunately the excesses of the anti-women, male rights activists, otherwise known as TRAs, have utterly distorted the word.

Alwaystwomagpies Sat 23-May-20 08:29:27

Be interesting to see if Haddock kicks up a fuss about this one won’t it?

DrDavidBanner Sat 23-May-20 08:56:47

Hats sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If we're going to take previous cervical cancer campaigns as the president then yes it is transphobic. Not all men have a prostate and some women have prostates too.

Don't worry I'm sure the usual activists will soon be on the case raising issue with them 🤔

PositiveVibez Sat 23-May-20 09:04:33

This is very frustrating isn't it. Can't see anyone being up in arms about this or asking for the word 'men' to be retracted.

Fucking hell. This has pissed me right off 😠

FlamingoAndJohn Sat 23-May-20 09:14:02

Someone should tweet it to Haddock and complain. See what he does.

OnABeachSomewhere Sat 23-May-20 09:21:58

angry

HorseRadishFemish Sat 23-May-20 09:27:57

It's almost like transmen have been socialised to not make a fuss.

Lordfrontpaw Sat 23-May-20 09:45:14

If you look at the sanpro shelves - so always is ‘woman washed’ these days - but products for male incontinence and the world MAN is emblazoned all over it.

Smurftastic Sat 23-May-20 11:37:40

What a contrast to the recent 'Eve Appeal' campaign with 'everybody with a cervix'. But when confronted, they said the they're being inclusive.

Lordfrontpaw Sat 23-May-20 11:46:41

Bol-aux

Thelnebriati Sat 23-May-20 23:36:22

''It hasn’t gotten the attention or resources that some other cancers have.''

I keep seeing this stick used to beat women with. How very dare we work hard and campaign successfully.

ElectricTonight Sat 23-May-20 23:48:22

No it's not.

LaurieFairyCake Sun 24-May-20 01:05:04

It doesn't apply to trans men though

It applies to Transwomen

So we should write and say they must include transwomen in their marketing

That way we can be very clear with our sanitary products and market them to women and trans men winkgrin

Ereshkigalangcleg Sun 24-May-20 01:47:36

I think you're right Laurie. It's amazing that MTFs haven't already done so, really isn't it? Given they have so much clout?

MedusasButterDish Tue 26-May-20 18:59:12

This is really sad. As others have said above, complaining to the charity would be a bit of a dick move. However, it's also true that (a) they're cutting out TW, who can legitimately, and probably should, be reminded about this sort of cancer, but (c) they would probably be fucking crucified if they addressed transwomen with regard to prostate cancer.

MarkRuffaloCrumble Tue 26-May-20 22:20:07

they're cutting out TW, who can legitimately, and probably should, be reminded about this sort of cancer, but (c) they would probably be fucking crucified if they addressed transwomen with regard to prostate cancer.

It could be a great advert for trans people to highlight that we all have different bodies and that what’s on the outside and what’s on the inside don’t have to match.

They wouldn’t even need to use the word men - they could have a trans woman, trans man, plus any other variation of man and woman they fancy, then have a tag line of “anyone can have a prostate. Make sure you get yours checked out”.

Or maybe “2 of these people have a prostate, 2 don’t. Prostate Havers, book your examination now.”

They’d get all of the brownie points and it would be more in keeping with the cervix Havers message.

FalseImage Wed 27-May-20 10:35:52

Surely when it comes to cervical or prostate cancer the important issue is awareness for the general public regardless of how someone identifies.

Smurftastic Wed 27-May-20 11:45:07

The fact that it's even happening is a sick joke... I got called transphobic for wanting to be called a woman not 'person with a cervix'. My only hope is that the tide is turning, I've been reading a lot of reasonable comments under news articles. Otherwise we're screwed!

OldCrone Wed 27-May-20 12:13:37

I got called transphobic for wanting to be called a woman not 'person with a cervix'.

I thought TRAs considered 'reducing people to their genitals/body parts' was transphobic? So isn't the person who is reducing the woman to a 'person with a cervix' the transphobic one?

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