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Guardian has confused me

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AMCoffeePMWine · 13/05/2020 03:13

Is this article confusing? I can’t figure out what’s what. Is this a women who has passed, or ? Apologies if I’m missing something obvious

And of course, I’m v.sorry they’ve passed away, especially during these terrible times.

www.theguardian.com/law/2020/may/12/aimee-stephens-trans-rights-case-dies

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Fenlandmountainrescue · 13/05/2020 03:32

Its a man who lost his job because he decided he was a woman. I think the case is still going through the courts.

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NotBadConsidering · 13/05/2020 03:41

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3704635-USA-Harris-Funeral-Homes-v-EEOC-and-Aimee-Stephens

Previous thread. Concerns about precedent set with definitions of sex.

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AMCoffeePMWine · 13/05/2020 03:41

Got it thanks. I was confused as it says”woman at the centre...”

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testing987654321 · 13/05/2020 07:30

The irony of their request for money at the bottom is brilliant

Millions of readers around the world are flocking to the Guardian in search of honest, authoritative, fact-based reporting

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NotTerfNorCis · 13/05/2020 07:36

A heterosexual male person who, while working at a funeral home, declared they were female and would be coming to work in a skirt. The employers felt that some of the bereaved would find that disrespectful.

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Carbonmade · 13/05/2020 07:41

I think you’re being a little disingenuous there op, it’s made very clear in the article that aimee was trans.

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 13/05/2020 07:50

Millions of readers around the world are flocking to the Guardian in search of honest, authoritative, fact-based reporting

And The Guardian keeps disappointing them. Maybe that's why they're not giving any money.

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testing987654321 · 13/05/2020 07:52

It's only clear if you forget about detransitioning. Imagine if A ftm person was employed as apparently male, but then detransitioned, and their employer insisted they still wear a trouser suit. The article would read exactly the same.

The problem comes from using woman when you're talking about a man.

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ChattyLion · 13/05/2020 07:58

The Guardian actually has confused me lately. It warmly reviewed a new interesting-looking book which seems to be welcoming a more human solidarity approach to complex problems and human relationships. This is rather than trying to rely on current identity politics, which the author points out can be divisive in a very bad way. Encouraging signs of a variety of thoughts returning as acceptable for analysis at the Guardian, you might think..
But no, even within this review welcoming the author’s approach, the Guardian are clear that some thoughts are never acceptable or allowed for analysis. Can you guess in advance which ones?
www.theguardian.com/books/2018/may/31/mistaken-identity-by-asad-haider-review

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