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AMCoffeePMWine Wed 13-May-20 03:13:38

Is this article confusing? I can’t figure out what’s what. Is this a women who has passed, or ? Apologies if I’m missing something obvious

And of course, I’m v.sorry they’ve passed away, especially during these terrible times.

www.theguardian.com/law/2020/may/12/aimee-stephens-trans-rights-case-dies

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Fenlandmountainrescue Wed 13-May-20 03:32:36

Its a man who lost his job because he decided he was a woman. I think the case is still going through the courts.

NotBadConsidering Wed 13-May-20 03:41:33

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3704635-USA-Harris-Funeral-Homes-v-EEOC-and-Aimee-Stephens

Previous thread. Concerns about precedent set with definitions of sex.

AMCoffeePMWine Wed 13-May-20 03:41:41

Got it thanks. I was confused as it says”woman at the centre...”

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testing987654321 Wed 13-May-20 07:30:46

The irony of their request for money at the bottom is brilliant

Millions of readers around the world are flocking to the Guardian in search of honest, authoritative, fact-based reporting

NotTerfNorCis Wed 13-May-20 07:36:52

A heterosexual male person who, while working at a funeral home, declared they were female and would be coming to work in a skirt. The employers felt that some of the bereaved would find that disrespectful.

Carbonmade Wed 13-May-20 07:41:57

I think you’re being a little disingenuous there op, it’s made very clear in the article that aimee was trans.

TheProdigalKittensReturn Wed 13-May-20 07:50:44

Millions of readers around the world are flocking to the Guardian in search of honest, authoritative, fact-based reporting

And The Guardian keeps disappointing them. Maybe that's why they're not giving any money.

testing987654321 Wed 13-May-20 07:52:48

It's only clear if you forget about detransitioning. Imagine if A ftm person was employed as apparently male, but then detransitioned, and their employer insisted they still wear a trouser suit. The article would read exactly the same.

The problem comes from using woman when you're talking about a man.

ChattyLion Wed 13-May-20 07:58:31

The Guardian actually has confused me lately. It warmly reviewed a new interesting-looking book which seems to be welcoming a more human solidarity approach to complex problems and human relationships. This is rather than trying to rely on current identity politics, which the author points out can be divisive in a very bad way. Encouraging signs of a variety of thoughts returning as acceptable for analysis at the Guardian, you might think..
But no, even within this review welcoming the author’s approach, the Guardian are clear that some thoughts are never acceptable or allowed for analysis. Can you guess in advance which ones?
www.theguardian.com/books/2018/may/31/mistaken-identity-by-asad-haider-review

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