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Help me articulate why this is sexist

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Namechange47308281 Mon 13-Apr-20 20:00:07

If you described yourself as ‘crying like a girl’.
Yes women are more inclined and encouraged to show their emotions. But it’s still sexist is it not?
There are massive negative connotations to the phrase surely?

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WrathofFaeKIopp Mon 13-Apr-20 20:05:27

If you described yourself as ‘crying like a girl’
I have never described myself as 'crying like a girl’.

Namechange47308281 Mon 13-Apr-20 20:07:09

Apologies that’s badly phrased.

If someone described them self as . . .

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TehBewilderness Mon 13-Apr-20 20:13:54

Doing anything like a girl has been the default insult among men for many many years.
Yes it is sexist. It isn't possible to cry like a girl unless you are a girl who is crying.

WrathofFaeKIopp Mon 13-Apr-20 20:18:51

'Like a girl' is a phrase that is putting someone down based on sexist views.
'Crying like a girl' reinforces sexist stereotypes.
Not a massive issue but annoying to think there are people who still believe in 1950's gender stereotypes.

DCIRozHuntley Mon 13-Apr-20 20:20:32

Hmm. Girl tells us 3 things - species is human, sex is female, age is under 18. I suppose a woman can describe themselves as "crying like a girl" because they are female and know how they used to cry as a child.

If it wasn't sexist and just related to the age of the person, though, men would cry like boys.

Pertella Mon 13-Apr-20 20:23:36

A girl/woman wouldn't be described as crying like a girl, it is only something said to boys/men in an attempt to shame them for showing emotion.

SliAnChroi Mon 13-Apr-20 20:28:48

I think it susggests a load of sexist assumptions, like girls cry over nothing, that their tears are fake..

Namechange47308281 Mon 13-Apr-20 20:32:10

From a senior police officer.

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LadyBBKing Mon 13-Apr-20 20:46:31

A senior Male police officer is "crying like a girl". Distasteful

DrDreReturns Mon 13-Apr-20 20:49:01

Shakespeare did it in King Lear, "women's weapons, water-drops"

Qcng Mon 13-Apr-20 20:53:14

Explaining sexism to a police officer would be like trying to explain the history of domestication to your pet cat. A waste of effort and then they wouldn't care anyway.

ladybee28 Mon 13-Apr-20 20:58:28

Explaining sexism to a police officer would be like trying to explain the history of domestication to your pet cat. A waste of effort and then they wouldn't care anyway

Speaking of prejudice...

DidoLamenting Mon 13-Apr-20 21:12:57

There is nothing wrong with a grown woman saying "I cried like a baby" or "I cried like when I was a little girl" if the intention is to convey the sort of uncontrollable reaction a small , female child might have had.

Had he said "I cried like a baby" or "I cried like when I was a little boy" - both perfectly fine.

In his current circumstances however whilst it was an unthinking remark I think on the whole I would have let this one go. His remark was casual sexism but making a thread to criticise him given his and his family's circumstances also seems a bit distasteful.

saturdaynightathome Mon 13-Apr-20 21:24:25

It is sexist because it's being portrayed as a weakness.

Women do not describe themselves as crying like a girl. It's an expression only used in judgment, by men and about men.

TreestumpsAndTrampolines Mon 13-Apr-20 22:33:31

Had he said "I cried like a baby" or "I cried like when I was a little boy" - both perfectly fine.

exactly this.

Boys cry just the same as girls, unless they've been indoctrinated into toxic masculinity and taught that the only emotion they are allowed to show is anger.

june2007 Mon 13-Apr-20 22:37:47

TBH I don,t really here crying like a girl m,uch. But yes of course its sexist.

PositiveVibez Mon 13-Apr-20 23:00:00

Of course it's sexist. It's used to denote a weakness. Used by males.

You never hear a woman using this phrase.

It's only ever used by adult males.

It's the same a man telling another man he is a 'fanny' or a 'pussy' for acting weak.

deydododatdodontdeydo Mon 13-Apr-20 23:07:56

Throw like a girl is a common phrase, too.
In contrast to the poster above, I have heard other mums telling their sons to "stop crying like a girl".

2ndStar Mon 13-Apr-20 23:23:02

It’s used to criticise behaviour in men/boys, of course it’s sexist. As is like a woman, gossips like a woman for example.

ErrolTheDragon Mon 13-Apr-20 23:36:25

Yes, it's sexist.
But although its denigrating to women as being weak, it's really more deleterious to men - under some circumstances (eg in this particular case) its entirely normal and healthy for anyone to cry. 'Big boys don't cry' ... not good.

Changename5000 Tue 14-Apr-20 07:52:37

youtu.be/XjJQBjWYDTs

Called run like a girl

DickKerrLadies Tue 14-Apr-20 08:02:35

I honestly can't think of any time I've heard an insult that ended in the words 'like a boy' yet it's an awful thing for a boy to be told he's crying like a girl, or running like a girl, or throwing like a girl. I've heard those lots.

Why is it so bad for a boy to be 'like a girl' but fine for a girl to be 'like a boy'?

Is the worst thing a male can be, to be like a female? That's a hypothetical question, as we all know what the worst thing you can call someone is and what that means.

JellySlice Tue 14-Apr-20 10:04:29

It's sexist because he is a man using the term "cried like a girl" to show that he was behaved weakly, in an umanly way. Men must be strong! Men must not show emotions! Especially not emotions displaying any weakness!

Had he said he 'cried like a child', it would not have been insulting because children do display their emotions, are allowed to display distress in distressing circumstances.

For a male to describe something negative of himself as being something female is a statement that female is negative. Sexist.

june2007 Tue 14-Apr-20 12:54:58

Man up is also just as bad.

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