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Practical equality

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RobinMoiraWhite · 16/03/2020 14:11

Four!

Four good friends and Chambers colleagues, Ijeoma Omambala, Deshpal Panesar, Katherine Newton and Rebecca Tuck are ‘taking silk’ - becoming QC’s - today. Here they are pictured on the steps of Old Square Chambers before heading off to the ceremony.

Also in the picture are Senior Clerk Will Meade, Deputy Senior Clerk Graham Smith , Senior Team Leader Paul Adams and Team Leader Olivia Moliterno.

All appointed on the most obvious and outstanding merit but interesting, perhaps important, to note: 3 women, 2 women of colour, 3 ethnic minorities and at least three religions.

Old Square is a very special - and equal - place to practice law.

Practical equality
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CuriousaboutSamphire · 16/03/2020 14:19

That's nice... why do we need to know this, specifically? Is it an advert?

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donquixotedelamancha · 16/03/2020 14:31

why do we need to know this, specifically? Is it an advert?

I imagine op is just sharing good news. It's nice to be reminded how much progress is being made, despite the bumps.

That said, I wonder how many of them have come from poor backgrounds?

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RobinMoiraWhite · 16/03/2020 14:43

Yes, my intention was to recognise the positive.

Strong role models are very important for progress.

At least one of those pictured was state-educated. I don’t know the educational backgrounds of the others.

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FloralBunting · 16/03/2020 14:44

Well done to all the women making strides in a patriarchal system stacked against them. They have my complete support.

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NonnyMouse1337 · 17/03/2020 06:51

That's great to see. Congratulations to all, especially the women.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 17/03/2020 07:39

I imagine op is just sharing good news. Having read others of Their posts I am cynical!

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trotabitwalkabit · 17/03/2020 09:06

I disagree with most of RMW's posts. This pic was cheering though.

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Reginabambina · 17/03/2020 09:16

To be fair I doubt anyone actually cares whether their barrister is Male, female, ethnic minority, religious etc. A lot of people wouldn’t even care whether they were a QC or not. Likewise most graduates looking for a pupilage aren’t going to be prioritising Instagramable #equality because they all know exactly what all chambers are like under the surface. If you could publish any interesting articles these people have written or any cases where they have done a spectacular job the legally swotty might be interested. Beyond that it really really doesn’t matter.

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OhHolyJesus · 17/03/2020 10:16

I'm with Regina, having a balance of sex of employees in businesses of all types would be great, it's what feminist have been striving for for decades. We can celebrate women being appointed in senior and important positions, sure, but it doesn't mean anything if we can't say what a woman is.

The OP would probably self-ID as a woman and would probably use the women's loo at work. The women at the same chambers might feel uncomfortable about that and would probably feel they couldn't say anything. So, if that is the case, the women are still oppressed, even if they occupy these roles, roles they worked hard for, roles they deserve.

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Strangerthantruth · 17/03/2020 10:21

If only we didn't have the legal profession gaslighting us on sex.

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LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 17/03/2020 10:25

Well, yes. It's important to acknowledge an individual women's achievements, especially if she is breaking through barriers, but on a broader scale, Feminism isn't about individual women being successful in a male dominated sphere.

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LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 17/03/2020 10:27

Sorry, meant to add in that this is why simple numerical ratios don't really mean very much in terms of liberating women.

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DidoLamenting · 17/03/2020 12:44

A lot of people wouldn’t even care whether they were a QC or not

I regularly instruct advocates (Scottish barristers). My go to person is a very experienced junior who by experience, knowledge, cases won and age should be a silk but actively prefers being a junior as he gets more work as he is still cheaper than a QC. The last time I saw him in court he wiped the floor with the QC.

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Bananabixfloof · 17/03/2020 13:14

perhaps important, to note: 3 women, 2 women of colour
Did you actually just assume their gender? How very dare you.

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chirpychirpycheepcheepy · 31/05/2022 22:59

RobinMoiraWhite · 16/03/2020 14:11

Four!

Four good friends and Chambers colleagues, Ijeoma Omambala, Deshpal Panesar, Katherine Newton and Rebecca Tuck are ‘taking silk’ - becoming QC’s - today. Here they are pictured on the steps of Old Square Chambers before heading off to the ceremony.

Also in the picture are Senior Clerk Will Meade, Deputy Senior Clerk Graham Smith , Senior Team Leader Paul Adams and Team Leader Olivia Moliterno.

All appointed on the most obvious and outstanding merit but interesting, perhaps important, to note: 3 women, 2 women of colour, 3 ethnic minorities and at least three religions.

Old Square is a very special - and equal - place to practice law.

I'd sincerely like to hear how the OP concluded that there are three women in this photo. Really hope there were no assumptions going on.

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BenCooperisaGod · 01/06/2022 07:07

All that incredible diversity, and they still couldn't manage to put a decent bundle together between them.

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Terfydactyl · 01/06/2022 07:15

BenCooperisaGod · 01/06/2022 07:07

All that incredible diversity, and they still couldn't manage to put a decent bundle together between them.

Fucking howling here.
Brilliant

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drwitch · 01/06/2022 07:33

Ben cooper is at old square too

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LunaLights · 01/06/2022 07:52

Oh, here we go…… 😉

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PaterPower · 01/06/2022 09:10

“Old Square is a very special - and equal - place to practice law.”

I have no reason to disagree with the veracity of your statement, but can’t help but note that all four senior staff pictured appear to identify as white, whilst three quarters present as male.

I wish all four new QCs every success in their careers and trust we’ll get to see them standing behind the next generation of QCs, following their promotion to positions of authority within Chambers.

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Pluvia · 01/06/2022 09:26

Strangerthantruth · 17/03/2020 10:21

If only we didn't have the legal profession gaslighting us on sex.

This.

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Artichokeleaves · 01/06/2022 13:29

Shouldn't this be on the other feminism board?

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 01/06/2022 13:32

Look at the date. It was started before the naughty corner was implemented. Even Floral has posted on it.

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Artichokeleaves · 01/06/2022 13:38

Whoops. Sorry, didn't see this was a zombie.

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Igmum · 01/06/2022 13:59

BenCooperisaGod · 01/06/2022 07:07

All that incredible diversity, and they still couldn't manage to put a decent bundle together between them.

😂😂😂

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