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Anyone else currently striking with UCU but reconsidering their position?

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MuffinMittens · 02/03/2020 11:37

I'm an academic on strike. But seriously considering leaving UCU and going back to work, on the basis of the response to no-platforming of Selina Todd (and, to be frank, so serious general fuckwittery of UCU in relation to identity politics).

Anyone else in a similar position?

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MuffinMittens · 02/03/2020 11:37

*some serious general fuckwittery

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boatyardblues · 02/03/2020 11:42

The UCU leader’s response to Selina’s deplatforming at the weekend beggars belief. I can see why, as a member, you would be furious and questioning your ongoing support.

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MuffinMittens · 02/03/2020 11:50

Thanks for the response, @boatyardblues

Never thought I'd be considering breaking the strike till this...

I've just seen that Kathleen Stock has left UCU for this reason

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littlbrowndog · 02/03/2020 11:57

If you are paying your subs and they won’t support you as a woman just tell them to do one

Kathleen has left I saw on twitter

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Miriel · 02/03/2020 12:01

I'm a doctoral student and left the UCU last year for similar reasons. Ordinarily I'd be against strike-breaking, but if you were an academic in my department I'd have so much admiration for you for making a stand like this.

I know that it's difficult and there's the potential for backlash, though, depending on the climate at your university.

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GCAcademic · 02/03/2020 12:03

There's quite a few of us on here who have already left on the basis of UCU's / Grady's attacks on feminist academics. There are others, admirably, who are staying to try to effect change from within. I can't do it, though. I won't pay them £26 a month knowing that if I needed support if there was a complaint against me for believing biological sex is real and politically important, they would throw me under the bus and call me a bigot.

There's some more discussion about the strikes / Grady / academic freedom here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/academics_corner/3732596-When-do-you-think-the-strikes-will-be?msgid=94366068

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nonsenceagain · 02/03/2020 13:25

I'm not striking in solidarity with Selina. Will stay out until Jo Grady leaves and/or UCU gets its act together.

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Daca · 02/03/2020 13:45

Please do join us on the academic common room thread. A union for academics that supports no-platforming is not fit for purpose. And this massive distraction also undermines the ongoing strike that UCU members have given up their wages for. Over 25 strike days since 2018. Jo Grady could have just staid out of this but no ... it would be understandable if you could no longer support this.

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jadefinch · 02/03/2020 14:04

This is Jo Grady's extraordinary response to one of her members being no-platformed (because a woman talking about women's history at a women's conference was considered offensive)

Anyone else currently striking with UCU but reconsidering their position?
Anyone else currently striking with UCU but reconsidering their position?
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stumbledin · 02/03/2020 14:08

boatyardblues - Hi, is there a link to the statement somewhere on line? thanks.

Irrespective differences in feminist politics, the issue of no platforming is getting worse.

And so much of this intolerance seems to be coming out of universities.

Is it the attitudes of the young people coming as students, or is it a growing culture amongst academics.

The ripple effect out into society (and party politics) is very, very worrying.

Thanks.

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boatyardblues · 02/03/2020 14:25

Jadefinch has already posted the relevant retweet. Jo Grady retweeted the statement by the young speaker who got Selina deplatformed (noting it was the spinelessness organising committee that wielded the fatal blow).

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knit1purl1 · 02/03/2020 14:34

I have refused to go to class on strike days up to now but am considering returning tomorrow based on these principles. Feel like having my own leaflet ready for any picket line stating why re Selina Todd & Grady etc.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 02/03/2020 18:11

As I understand it, if you are GC and get into some sort of bother because of this (student complaints etc) the UCU would not support you.

Kind of makes being a member a bit pointless...

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stumbledin · 02/03/2020 19:24

Unfortunately posted graphic images of tweets isn't very helpful as not everyone has the same graphics package and / or has a visual impairment which means reading text captured as a photo is not accessible.

All I wanted was the live url.

Added to which of course (not saying its the case here but relevant in other instances) images can by faked.

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morningtoncrescent62 · 02/03/2020 19:36
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AgileLass · 03/03/2020 09:07

Yes, I’m hanging in there at the moment, hoping UCU can get its act together.

This gave me some hope yesterday - there are clearly many in HEC who do feel committed to academic freedom michael4hec.wordpress.com/2020/03/02/what-is-ucus-position-on-academic-freedom/

It should be noted that Selina Todd stated yesterday that she had left UCU some time back. Don’t blame her, and it doesn’t make Jo Grady’s behaviour any less abhorrent. She’s way, way out of her depth on this.

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NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 03/03/2020 09:18

@AgileLass

Thank you for your post. I'm with you. I'm a UCU member on strike and am planning to stay and try and change things from within. I may be misguided but I believe that that's the way forward. We need someone to stay but ….. I do completely understand why some of you have left the UCU Blush

I like your posts. They sum up how I'm feeling but I can be a bit 'snippy' when writing. You say it so well Smile

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AgileLass · 03/03/2020 09:23

Thank you NiceLegs that’s very kind of you to say Smile

I’ve actually found quite a bit of quiet support from male academics within my dept (I’m “out” as GC to a couple), and I know they voted accordingly in the recent elections. So there’s more than you might think who are uncomfortable with the current direction of travel.

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stumbledin · 03/03/2020 13:57

Thanks for the link - will share with some women discussing this on facebook. (Y)

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MuffinMittens · 03/03/2020 17:06

Feel some relief that I'm not alone in this... thanks, all, for posting. I'm still in UCU at present, and on strike. Still deciding whether to watch and wait or jump ship.
I'll join you on the other thread, too...

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GodwinsRulebook · 03/03/2020 18:14

I went public on Twitter about having severe doubts whether I could stay in UCU in all good conscience, when our Gen Sec responds to Ms Olufemi and Shon Faye (of the "women, enjoy your erasure") was a flame/fire emoji. Disgraceful.

But I've had a lot of support from friends - but they've please with me - other other good feminists - to stay in UCU to fight the current idiocy. My issue is that OI am already overstretched, and cannot add becoming active in my local branch to my To Do list - or rather my Run-Over-the-deadline-spend-my life-apologising-to-people List.

I've been strike-breaking with no guilty conscience because I voted against the strikes, did not vote for Dr Grady, and think the whole leadership domination by the UCU Left is like a load of teenagers pretending to be Che Guevera.

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GodwinsRulebook · 03/03/2020 18:28

As I understand it, if you are GC and get into some sort of bother because of this (student complaints etc) the UCU would not support you

I was supported - but that was 2 years ago - not sure if my local UCU branch has now been "captured." But it's the memory of the really excellent support I had from my local UCU case worker that keeps me in the UCU.

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AgileLass · 03/03/2020 18:55

I’m despairing this evening, after the response to the Suzanne Moore article I’ve seen from so many Twitter academics. Just despairing Sad

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CumannNamBan · 03/03/2020 19:31

Please don't break the strike over it, it won't help the cause and will alienate people.

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DrLadybits · 04/03/2020 12:44

I am a striking UCU member, and waiting until the strike is over to kick off over this. I was personally blocked by Jo Grady on Twitter as she at some period subscribed to terf blocker lists, this in the context to me almost never posting on Twitter. I didn’t vote for her because of it, though am happy she has popular support. I almost resigned over her twitter support for mermaids, am now seriously biting my tongue over her enthusiasm over Selina Todd’s no platforming. Her bully boy tactics are completely inappropriate, my support for UCU is really suffering as a result of her leadership.

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