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Women & Girls in Scotland GRA Consultation Guidance

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GRAconsultationGuidance · 26/02/2020 21:21

Link Here

Please have a read 🙏

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TitianaTitsling · 26/02/2020 21:25

Thanks for this, sadly l don't think the SNP will give a shit or pay heed to anything that doesn't follow the 'twaw glitter amaze'... but will make sure l complete this.

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Thelnebriati · 26/02/2020 21:43

When does it close?

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ScrimshawTheSecond · 26/02/2020 22:00

17th March. Actually we've got a little bit longer than I thought. Thank goodness!

consult.gov.scot/family-law/gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill/consultation/subpage.2016-07-07.1474135251/

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UpfieldHatesWomen · 26/02/2020 22:12

That's incredibly in-depth. Stellar work, whoever has put that together, thanks for posting.

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Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 26/02/2020 22:24

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drum123 · 26/02/2020 22:42

Can anyone complete this or do you have to live in Scotland?

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GRAconsultationGuidance · 26/02/2020 22:46

Anyone anywhere.

One thing that's important from outside Scotland is the claim there's no evidence of adverse impact from self ID laws. Please do submit any experience or evidence in any country where either laws or policy capture has impacted women & girls.

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Dances · 26/02/2020 23:01

Fab work.
It's an important point re. Publishing your response because it allows data analysis of the results, otherwise, the Scot Gov can deny the responses like they did in the previous consultation.

SO

  • Respond and use the terms used in headers, which will aid ANALYSIS.
  • Those well versed in this know the key terms. Use them.
  • PUBLISH your responses. This can be done anonymously
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Dances · 26/02/2020 23:28

Bumping to remind to PUBLISH

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GinnyLane · 27/02/2020 06:38

Blush I feel horribly intimidated by that... I thought I could just write a little bit about my worries. Eek.

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dragonlangx · 27/02/2020 09:35

GinnyLane don't be intimidated by it. There is a whole lot of detail there but try and use the headings and use your own experience. if you are finding it too much do it in chunks or do the best you can.
Any response that challenges this nonsense is worthwhile
Please do respond and do publish your response

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littlbrowndog · 27/02/2020 10:18

Bumping

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Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 27/02/2020 13:49

Ginny, if you feel intimidated, there's also a more basic guidance on forwomen.scot.

LGB Alliance, SNP pledge and Murrayblackburnmackenzie.org all have some too!

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GRAconsultationGuidance · 27/02/2020 22:06

Bumpity bump

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bettybeans · 28/02/2020 02:04

I’m going to need to take a day off just to get this right. So many excellent sets of guidance notes. I’m in awe of the women who put this stuff together.

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bettybeans · 28/02/2020 02:07

Also please do submit your own response even if you don’t live in Scotland. Primarily because we need you (TRA are canvassing worldwide for responses in support) but also because what happens here may ultimately have an effect on what happens at Westminster. The results of this consultation may well be used by politicians who support/oppose UK reform, for example.

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NonnyMouse1337 · 28/02/2020 06:36

This is impressively detailed and comprehensive. I'm still reading through the response for question 5.

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GinnyLane · 28/02/2020 07:50

Thanks for the words of encouragement! I will be tackling it this afternoon, and over the weekend - better to be intimidated by this than the alternative.

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dragonlangx · 28/02/2020 09:16

Remember the deadline is the 17th of March so please get it done before then

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ScrimshawTheSecond · 28/02/2020 09:24

It might be worth saying that the consultation is daunting and intimidating. If a govt truly wants to survey the general population, they have a responsibility to set out the questions clearly and in terms the general reader can understand.

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ScrimshawTheSecond · 28/02/2020 09:25

It's not a consultation for just 'people who work in equalities' or academics, or specialists.

It's a consultation for everyone, and it should be accessible.

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littlbrowndog · 28/02/2020 09:25

Yes exactly scrimshaw.

It should be accessible and so we can understand what it is about

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dragonlangx · 28/02/2020 14:01

It should be accessible and should be promoted to everyone that has an interest but like the first time around the Scottish Government have made it difficult to fill in, will not accept written statements and have said they will exclude responses that are offensive. They have also completely dismissed women's concerns and have not looked for any evidence to back up their own position.

This is why the guidance from Women and Girls in Scotland is so important for questions 4 and 5 because it lays out were the Scottish Government has gone wrong and asks for peoples own experiences to provide the evidence Scottish Government seems unable to find didn't look hard for

This is why it is important for all you lovely lot to complete this and publish the response. This means the evidence will be out in the public domain, even if you publish it anonymously, so Women and Girls in Scotland can commission an independent analysis of the responses

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ScrimshawTheSecond · 28/02/2020 16:14

Exclude responses that are offensive. And do they define offensive? Is it 'disagreement'?

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dragonlangx · 28/02/2020 17:42

No they don't and that is worrying but if they are published then they can be seen and analysed so Scottish Government can be challenged

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