Radio 2 Now!

[TheShoesa]

Jeremy Vine

[TheShoesa]

DH came in and said to put the radio on - I missed the beginning, but they were discussing the Labour pledge

[CodenameVillanelle]

Was fionne orlander on?

[Seeingadistance]

Today is a good day!

Now got a trans woman saying that a trans woman is not a woman!

[Seeingadistance]

Fionne has just been on.

[FaFoutis]

Fionne was good.

[TheShoesa]

It starts at around 12.31 (will listen from the beginning now!)

[EllenRipley]

I caught some of of it. I don't know who the interviewees were though - who was the pro-self ID/transwomen are womenblah blah blah idiot?? Christ.

I think the final caller I heard was a transwoman who categorically did not believe that transwomen are women, but adult male transwomen... and that the trans movement was a parasite on female rights (paraphrasing). Gave me a little bit of hope. I was mostly shouting for fuck sakes at the radio though.

[TheShoesa]

That was Fionne Orlander Ellen

Jeremy Vine seemed to find that hard to take in, as his usual TW callers are very much TWAW!

[EllenRipley]

Aah, thanks @TheShoesa. Yes he was totally beige throughout and couldn't seem to get his head round what the TW was saying. Mainstream media presenters consistently (and deliberately) seem to fail at getting to the heart of the issue. But then debate is so censored so that's hardly surprising.

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