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Gender reveal parties are now transphobic apparently

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Soubriquet · 14/02/2020 02:52

On a friends page

Hmm

I did point out that it’s usually a sex reveal party not a gender reveal and in this case sex and gender mean the same thing

Tempted to call her cisphobic if she tries to argue Grin

I hate the word cis too btw

Gender reveal parties are now transphobic apparently
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Coyoacan · 14/02/2020 03:07

Looks like a win-win to me. One appalling American import wipes out another appalling American import.

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Rosehip345 · 14/02/2020 03:10

That’s fine, I’m not ready for a trans, gender free or whatever other ones there are baby.
My gender reveal is that I’m having a boy....no preconceived ideas about who he’ll be, what he’ll be like etc, just that he will be most definitely born with a willy and therefore a boy 😁

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MrsTerryPratchett · 14/02/2020 03:13

My enemy's enemy is my friend.

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Durgasarrow · 14/02/2020 05:03

Transgenderism doesn't come from the U.S. I will grudgingly admit to the horror that is the gender reveal party, as I have received a gender reveal card from a distant young relative. Of course its "transphobic" to celebrate the idea that you wouldn't want your child to be on expesive drugs with devastating side effects for their entire lives, and to require mutilating surgeriesl et etcc

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Bananabixfloof · 14/02/2020 05:24

most definitely born with a willy and therefore a boy
Oh my that's sooo transphobic my dear, it could well be a lady penis. You shouldn't assume gender like that. 🤷‍♀️

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NeurotrashWarrior · 14/02/2020 06:32

Is the angle sex spot method on scan pics now transphobic too then?

Someone has better report a few threads in pregnancy.

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FET2020 · 14/02/2020 06:36

Biology is transphobic

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zanahoria · 14/02/2020 06:46

perhaps your friend could hold a self righteousness reveal party, guests would wait with baited breath about what she is to going preach about next.

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Findumdum1 · 14/02/2020 06:48

to be fair ive always thought these recent gender reveal parties that have been bought in from the US are pretty vulgar and silly. We should be breaking down gender barriers, not highlighting and celebrating them. Its not transphobic to note that you are incubating a male or a female baby though. As usual, its biology.

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Cwenthryth · 14/02/2020 07:11

This was sent to me recently....I wonder if this sentiment is also somehow transphobic.

“Gender reveal” parties are horrible sexist/misogynist/anti-feminist rubbish anyway. It starts the whole pink/blue gender role stereotyping bullshit before the child is even born. It is really interesting how often our fights are the same; just that the feminist answer is to reject the stereotypes, and the TRA answer is to choose-your-own stereotype.

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nettie434 · 14/02/2020 07:14

Look at that image - what stereotypes is it perpetuating with the very clearly male and female parents? Grin

Actually I do think gender reveal parties perpetuate stereotypes but I am a bit ‘bah humbug’ about the whole girls/boys separate marketing. I know it is just another example of a someone creating a commercial opportunity before the baby shower which everyone is free to opt in/out of but I do find them a bit meh.

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bellinisurge · 14/02/2020 07:26

The words gender reveal were only introduced to spare the blushes of tbe parents having a sex reveal party. Because obviously a baby reveals that the couple had sex at least once.

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HandsOffMyLangCleg · 14/02/2020 07:27

I cringe every time I see a 'gender reveal' thread on here and I know some posters have had posts deleted for pointing out that it's sex, not gender.

Maybe this will be a good thing. If an excited parent-to-be posts on social media and gets hounded by TRAs, it might wake a few more people up.

Babies are female or male though, as we ALL know Smile

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JellySlice · 14/02/2020 07:30

Look at that image - what stereotypes is it perpetuating with the very clearly male and female parents?

That only males are of interest - you can barely see the woman's face.

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HandsOffMyLangCleg · 14/02/2020 07:38

I thought it was a parody, but then I remembered that you can't joke with fundamentalists.

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donquixotedelamancha · 14/02/2020 08:03

Transgenderism doesn't come from the U.S.

I'm not sure that's true of Genderism (this odd belief that sex is a social construct and all that matters is the role one performs).

Much of this modern version seems rooted there, e.g. the push for early hormones, people who make no attempt to pass just saying they are the opposite sex.

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PaleBlueMoonlight · 14/02/2020 08:04

I think gender reveal parties are over the top (however, I love that people are so thrilled about their baby that they want a way to celebrate that fact with people that care) but I disagree that we should somehow be downgrading the importance of sex. That someone has a sex is critically important to their lives and to the lives of people around them. It is ridiculous to suggest that it isn’t. In my view we should be trying to create a society where opportunities are not limited because of your sex. Sometimes that might mean hiding sex in specific circumstances (eg names removed from CVs) in order to achieve that aim. However, I don’t want to live in a society that says that noticing sex and thinking it is important is somehow wrong.

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IrenetheQuaint · 14/02/2020 08:12

I'm all in favour of TRAs fighting against lazy sterotyping of babies based on their genitals, and wish they would do it more often.

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nettie434 · 14/02/2020 08:14

It is really interesting how often our fights are the same; just that the feminist answer is to reject the stereotypes,

Cross posted Cwenthryth Findumdum1. Yes! Gender stereotypes serve nobody but the patriarchy.

I know some posters have had posts deleted for pointing out that it's sex, not gender.

I think I do follow the guidelines but surely your gender is not established at this stage, only your sex? I guess its the difference between believing gender is performative and thinking it's an inner feeling.

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Cwenthryth · 14/02/2020 08:25

In my view we should be trying to create a society where opportunities are not limited because of your sex....However, I don’t want to live in a society that says that noticing sex and thinking it is important is somehow wrong.
I’m with you on this 100%.....if you ignore sex, you ignore sexism, and you can’t fight it. I don’t think ‘gender reveal’ parties with pink/blue balloons/confetti/cupcakes are at all helpful in this though!

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ThinEndoftheWedge · 14/02/2020 08:25

The truth is transphobic. That’s the point.

No gender reveal party for me- my children were assigned sexed at conception dependent on whether my egg was fertilised with an X or Y chromosome sperm- which was then observed 9 months later at birth.

Can’t remember the role of the mother or father - biology doesn’t count

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Babdoc · 14/02/2020 08:26

I suppose it’s predictable that TRAs would hate these sex reveal parties.
The scientific fact that sex is observable on scan well before birth makes a mockery of their “assigned at birth” nonsense. They want to force us to pander to their delusions, and they can’t tolerate too much reality. Like PPs, I hope they keep screaming about this - it will help to raise awareness among parents of exactly what risks lie ahead for their future children in being pushed into medication, mutilation and sterility by this cult ideology.

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PaleBlueMoonlight · 14/02/2020 08:30

Cwenthryth You are right, gender reveal parties are just that, gender reveal. They seem to be setting out how you are going to raise your child based on one of the crudest and earliest methods society uses to assign opportunities to girls and boys (whether something has been pinkified or not). A sex reveal party wouldn’t set that ball rolling.

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Cwenthryth · 14/02/2020 08:32

I may have answered the odd “what gender do you think my baby is?” post with guesses such as “non-binary genderqueer” when in a very, very hacked off/exhausted/facetious mood. I would hope that “non-binary genderqueer” would be a TRA-approved response on the face of it, though. Give it sunlight, as they say.

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Cwenthryth · 14/02/2020 08:40

That’s a bloody good point PaleBlueMoonlight! I suppose it could be possible to hold a pretty fiercely feminist “sex reveal” party, if you pitched it carefully. Would that be transphobic? To not assign stereotypes to the biology of the baby, but celebrate your intent to raise the child free of preconceptions, to be their own person and resist the expectations attached to their sex.

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