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Detective Maggie Oliver denounces police failures

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BovaryX Tue 14-Jan-20 10:42:44

A policewoman involved in the investigation into grooming gangs has denounced police failures to protect vulnerable victims and alleges the abuse was going on in plain view. She wants negligent individuals held accountable

I want the law changing so there can be retrospective accountability for people whose duty it is to protect the vulnerable. It’s knowing and deliberate neglection of duty…[those who were involved] should be charged with gross misconduct - it’s criminal - where is the accountability? “I was face-to-face with 15 years of misogyny - ‘stupid woman, she’s become too emotionally involved’ - authorities are very powerful and tried to control the dialogue.

BovaryX Tue 14-Jan-20 10:43:55

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/14/police-officers-knowingly-neglected-girls-exploited-grooming/

Uncompromisingwoman Tue 14-Jan-20 11:25:22

She's right. And I know was tireless in pursuing what happened. It's replicated everywhere. I've just watched the BBC programme on the establishment cover up of the paedophile Bishop Peter Ball (sorry for the Guardian link)
www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/14/friendship-with-prince-charles-made-paedophile-bishop-peter-ball-impregnable

Prosecuting those who were responsible for hiding / covering up / failing to take action against paedophiles would be a real warning shot for all those establishment figures / organisations currently removing safeguarding from vulnerable groups of children.

hoodathunkit Tue 14-Jan-20 11:32:25

Unfortunately Maggie Oliver has teamed up with a notorious self proclaimed "police whistleblower" and satanic panic promoter Jon Wedger as can be seen in this video

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VKa3tDdRyk

This is very sad as I had, for some time, had nothing but respect for Maggie Oliver.

Oliver's association with Wedger is cause for concern for anyone who cares about the truth and is aware of fake news.

I lack sufficient data to know what could have happened for someone as reputable as Maggie Oliver to associate herself with a grifter like Jon Wedger.

It is possible that he groomed her into believing his bizarre claims when she was vulnerable and traumatised following work bullying and or just the traumatising nature of police work with sexually exploited women and children.

I believe that Private Eye magazine have reported on this issue

Some links of interest

www.ipsg.co.uk/the-whistleblowing-bandwagon

barthsnotes.com/2019/01/02/police-whistleblowers-group-raises-concerns-about-jon-wedger-and-maggie-oliver/

hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/tag/jonathan-wedger/

posted in haste, not time to read the link posted in the OP and thus I cannot comment on it.

I just wanted readers to exercise caution and skepticism for the reasons detailed in the links in my post

RuffleCrow Tue 14-Jan-20 11:34:14

Well done to her for speaking out.

That's how we deal with misogyny: we speak out and we keep speaking out for as long as we have to. Forever, if need be.

BovaryX Tue 14-Jan-20 12:02:08

Oliver's association with Wedger is cause for concern for anyone who cares about the truth and is aware of fake news

There's absolutely nothing fake about the police's failure to investigate promptly. That's a fact. She's speaking out on the eve of a report into police failures.

BovaryX Tue 14-Jan-20 12:09:58

^Assistant Chief Constable Mabs Hussain, Head of Specialist Crime for Greater Manchester Police, said: “We accept that authorities fell short of doing all they could to protect and support the child victims of sexual exploitation identified under Operation Augusta in 2004. “Children should be able to expect those responsible for their care will do all they can to keep them safe and I want to apologise to all those vulnerable children who were let down. “I can only imagine the pain and distress they must have gone through, which would have only been made worse by these failings. I am sorry they were let down and I am sorry they were not protected from harm.
“Many of the children were subject to the most profound abuse and, although the review team acknowledged there was much in Operation Augusta and the work carried out by the investigation team to be commended, we agree the overall operation was not to the standard rightfully expected from victims^

MsSafina Tue 14-Jan-20 16:34:56

A child who had been forcibly injected with heroin by a 50 year old pedophile and had reported her abuse to social workers died.

Mockers2020Vision Tue 14-Jan-20 17:29:37

Ex Chief Constable of GM on R4 just now. Speaks about the old target culture ("Our priorities are car crime and burglary") and how now, interestingly, the priority is the protection of vulnerable people.

Like poor souls who've had their feelings hurt by tweets.

HDDD Tue 14-Jan-20 18:00:39

Woman accused of being 'emotional' when raising concerns and bullied out of her job vindicated 15 years later. About bloody time and well done that woman.

ChattyLion Tue 14-Jan-20 18:12:06

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-51093159

BBC: ‘Manchester sex abuse: Exploited children 'were not protected'’

flowers rest in peace Victoria Agoglia whose killers have not been caught. I really hope her grandmother Joan succeeds in her fight for justice for her granddaughter.

Beansandcoffee Tue 14-Jan-20 18:25:31

So very very sad for those children. I hope the gangs are now arrested and the police, that coroner, and social workers etc etc are also disciplined.

Gronky Tue 14-Jan-20 18:30:29

It might be rather challenging to get an ex post facto law passed.

MsSafina Tue 14-Jan-20 19:22:41

I'll just leave this here as a reminder of what happened to people who tried to expose it.
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/our-region/west-yorkshire-and-the-dales/bradford/heartbreak-of-mp-s-lone-battle-to-tackle-sex-abuse-in-bradford-1-8285026

RedToothBrush Tue 14-Jan-20 19:42:50

This won't become law.

Too many lobbists with too much of a vested invested, who know they could be vulnerable in the future to a law like that...

refusetobeasheep Tue 14-Jan-20 21:10:08

MsSafina, Anne Crier was a superb local MP who really helped her constituents. That even she was unable to get this looked at shows just how deep the problem goes. We need the names of those who failed to investigate, maybe seeing names will encourage those in the future to do the right rather than easy thing.

Mockers2020Vision Tue 14-Jan-20 21:18:55

Glad someone's mentioned the Peter Ball documentary, Part Two on now.

Quite clear that Prince Charles has wriggled his way off a hook here, which if you join the dots regarding his brother, paints an unedifying picture.

MsSafina Tue 14-Jan-20 21:29:36

@refusetobeasheep. Anne Cryer came up against the establishment. In this case, the liberal establishment with their cries of racism. Just as the boys who had accused Peter Ball came up against the establishment of the church, gentry and royals. It's a wall either way.

ScapaFlo Tue 14-Jan-20 21:39:23

Christ the parallels today are disturbing. It used to be accusations of racism that silenced people with concerns. People who queried the evidence of their own eyes came up against the stone wall of the establishment. Now Stonewall is the establishment.

Uncompromisingwoman Tue 14-Jan-20 22:14:18

The Peter Ball documentary was horrendous - and very sobering in terms of the range of establishment figures who supported him, usually with full knowledge of the evidence and his admission of guilt.
The patterns are the same. A collective decision by those in power (usually men) to cover up abuse and collude with abusers.

LangCleg Tue 14-Jan-20 22:24:58

The patterns are the same.

They always are. Which is why there must be no more sacred castes in safeguarding. There is always at least one group treated as above suspicion.

TheProdigalKittensReturn Tue 14-Jan-20 22:26:52

The moment any group is treated as above suspicion, predators will begin working their way into that group. It's as predictable as the seasons and anyone who claims it won't happen this time is an idiot.

TalkingintheDark Tue 14-Jan-20 22:49:43

Anyone watching Newsnight now?

Thelnebriati Tue 14-Jan-20 22:49:50

Its striking how many people who spoke out were women, and how they have been penalised for it.

TalkingintheDark Tue 14-Jan-20 22:52:10

Yes. That woman whistleblower who was sent on a “racism awareness course”.

“Re-education”

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