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Poppyisa Tue 14-Jan-20 00:21:07

I live in the US and am a volunteer with MDA. This was posted by Shannon Watts, founder of MDA. I’m sick to my stomach, just disgusting.

Chocolatemice Tue 14-Jan-20 00:39:29


redcarvoue Tue 14-Jan-20 02:08:25


MangoesAreMyFavourite Tue 14-Jan-20 08:46:27

That's disgusting. And real DARVO as men have been taking away rights of other people, specially women, for millennia.

HorseWithNoTimeForThis Tue 14-Jan-20 09:01:13

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

RuffleCrow Tue 14-Jan-20 09:04:45

Misogyny is back with a vengeance isn't it?

The tide is turning though - just look at the Labour leadership race here in the uk.

GCAcademic Tue 14-Jan-20 09:06:14

The tide is turning though - just look at the Labour leadership race here in the uk.

Which the one man running will win. I guarantee it.

HorseWithNoTimeForThis Tue 14-Jan-20 10:15:05

You beat me to it!

Ineedacupofteadesperately Tue 14-Jan-20 10:30:40

That's awful. I've been thinking for a while that the rhetoric around guns in the USA is similar to TRA rhetoric - it's a 'right' to wander around with a fully loaded automatic weapon, for example (which obviously completely takes away other people's right to feel safe and in some situations, not be shot and not die unnecessarily). People saying 'hmm, maybe we should balance everyone's needs and 'rights' here and focus on safety' are branded as 'taking away rights'.

RuffleCrow Tue 14-Jan-20 10:40:53

That's an over-simplification which ignores the following:

Clive "Get On Your Knees" Lewis failed to even secure 6 nominations grin grin. He's my useless mp which makes his defeat all the sweeter.

Jess Phillips is extremely popular and has done more to highlight femicide than any other MP.

As DPP Keir Starmer made huge efforts to improve outcomes for rape and sexual assault victims, most of whom are female. He also represented Helen Steele for 10 years which I believe was pro bono so there's a GC element there too, although that wasn't what the case was about.

There are plenty of female politicians happily giving away our hard earned rights and shouting us down - sex alone isn't a guarantee of representation of female interests.

Yorkshirelass444 Tue 14-Jan-20 10:59:10

To be fair, Jess P unfortunately has the backs of those with AGP over and above their spouses; she's also a fan of men in female refuges- she just doesn't get it and is likely to capitulate to that which is trendy- i find her quite young with her faux working class schtick.
i'd prefer Keir Starmer- maybe it's a shame he's a guy, i dunno but i'd feel the leadership to be in safer- more mature- hands with him.
i'm a bit fed up up with calling out "misogyny" if we happen to believe a man more capable in a certain situation than women. it does us no favours- it alienates people and we end up with crappy women like Dawn Butler in the frame for high office. it also means people leap to gleefully denounce women when they do behave badly as a kind of gotcha- because people so fed up of men being pilloried.

HorseWithNoTimeForThis Tue 14-Jan-20 12:14:29

...* if we happen to believe a man more capable in a certain situation than women*..

Do you?

Which situations apart from leader of the Labour Party?

Goosefoot Tue 14-Jan-20 12:49:09

Which situations apart from leader of the Labour Party?

Any situation where the man in question is competent and the woman in question is a doofus?

Chocolatemice Tue 14-Jan-20 12:52:52

Pissing up a wall

redcarvoue Tue 14-Jan-20 13:09:00


What a nasty, xenophobic comment.

Where I live in the US is pretty civilsed. Please tell me where you've spent extended time in the States. hmm

I'd say Britain is looking pretty uncivilised right now.

Qcng Tue 14-Jan-20 13:12:30

The UK doesn't have people going into schools murdering children on a regular basis...

Qcng Tue 14-Jan-20 13:14:12

Actually, I'll rephrase that.

UK doesn't have white men going into schools murdering children on a regular basis, and black people are not shot and killed by our police in a daily basis.

The USA loves to present itself as Disney perfect, but that's propaganda for you.

Yorkshirelass444 Tue 14-Jan-20 14:07:53

thanks, Goosefoot- yes- in any situation in which the man happens to be better than the woman- then i'd possibly prefer them! and the converse is also true.

HorseWithNoTimeForThis Tue 14-Jan-20 14:13:06

As you have had my perfectly innocuous post removed you can forget about me engaging with you.

Suffice to say I agree wholeheartedly with the comments made by Qcng on this subject.

redcarvoue Tue 14-Jan-20 14:20:36

So where in the States you have spent extended time? As to Britain, a lot of countries view it very dimly these days with knife crime, high levels of bullying, Brexit, rise of racism, I could go on for a long time.

Oh and ignorant xenophobia. hmm

The irony.

redcarvoue Tue 14-Jan-20 14:21:21

Mumsnet didn't see it as innocuous did they?

HorseWithNoTimeForThis Tue 14-Jan-20 14:50:12

I'd say Britain is looking pretty uncivilised right now.

For anyone who is remotely interested my post that was reported and subsequently removed was exactly the the same as the post quoted above but mentioning another country.

I will not be reporting the above post tho' because blah blah blah...

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