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cwg1 Fri 29-Nov-19 15:42:50

Short story thing. Of course, damn device has been playing up and trying to post for ages...

mostlyinnocuous Sun 08-Dec-19 23:58:54

Slight disappointment they chose a section which, whist powerful, was perhaps the 'easiest' and not remotely controversial. Strange, when the whole point of "Fact to Fiction" is to respond, through fiction, to an issue which is in the news right now, that neither the clip played, nor the comments about the piece, brought this out. If you only heard PotW, you might not see the link to current events.

2Rebecca Sun 08-Dec-19 22:13:57

I think it's excellent it was on and am not surprised he read out that bit but if people are interested they'll listen to the whole thing. I've listened to stuff after POTW. Can't get that Smurf song out of my head now

Clymene Sun 08-Dec-19 22:05:54

I listened to this walking the dog the other day and it was absolutely brilliant. So clever and concise. I have so much love and respect for all the Joans and Joannas and Jos that go before and after me. We are picking up one another's threads and carrying on. We can never rest. For every piece of rights we gain, someone is busily working away to unpick it. We must keep on mending.

cwg1 Sun 08-Dec-19 20:35:44

Oh - well done, everyone!! I knew FWR would do it smile

GCAcademic Sun 08-Dec-19 20:11:06

On radio 4 now! Did anyone catch how Adrian Chiles introduced it?

He said it “made a big impression” and read out a couple of listeners’ comments.

Melroses Sun 08-Dec-19 19:33:01

Also on POW, the idea that smoking made women feel free!!! "Why haven't we evolved better to see through these tricks of the trade" (probably a misinterpretation of evolution there)

Gaslighting with cigarette lighting there.

Melroses Sun 08-Dec-19 19:29:58

Pick of the week.

Melroses Sun 08-Dec-19 19:28:56

Oh fuck, I was making the dinner whilst that was on and didn't listen angry I asked for it and all - thought they had sidelined it. So pleased it was on though.

Slight disappointment they chose a section which, whist powerful, was perhaps the 'easiest' and not remotely controversial. Sadly, that was inevitable, but it was all good so I am going to listen again whilst it is still there.

When is POW repeated?

ErrolTheDragon Sun 08-Dec-19 19:23:05

Slight disappointment they chose a section which, whist powerful, was perhaps the 'easiest' and not remotely controversial.

BoreOfWhabylon Sun 08-Dec-19 18:42:55


Adrian Chiles likes it too!

Etinox Sun 08-Dec-19 18:42:35

On radio 4 now! Did anyone catch how Adrian Chiles introduced it?

SpringFan Sun 08-Dec-19 18:41:12

Its on POTW now!!
Well done us!

Manderleyagain Tue 03-Dec-19 13:33:57

Just got around to listening. Bloody Brilliant!

I read somewhere that it was commissioned.

The conversation itself is like a cursed book in a horror film - sums up the problem we have had. But this is helping to lift the curse.

AllYouGoodGoodPeople Mon 02-Dec-19 17:05:59

That was very well done.

LondonLass61 Mon 02-Dec-19 11:21:48

Just amazing.

TheWildPlaces Mon 02-Dec-19 11:17:23

I've just listened, and cried. Utterly brilliant. There is no way this would have been broadcast a year ago. We still have a long way to go here but something is shifting.

merrymouse Mon 02-Dec-19 10:37:29

Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant!

"The young Joan read widely, kept a diary, outdid the boys in writings and mathematics at school and pictured being a scholar or a lawyer, but degrees for women were rarely and grudgingly offered. It was illegal for a woman to enter the legal profession"

Of Joanna "She did not have a bank account because she did not have her own money"

"Femaleness and maleness have changed they say, although they don't explain when and how this happened, only that it has. It was never the bodies of Joan or Joanna that made them women, it was that they identified as women".

BovaryX Mon 02-Dec-19 10:19:16

One of the posters bears an image of a female mouth super glued shut

a lot of the protesters are men and Jo wonders why that is

Thank you for posting this link. What a superb piece. The fact the BBC is the forum suggests the media’s uncritical attitude to this issue is ending.....

ThePurported Mon 02-Dec-19 09:32:18

Wonderful, thank you op, I would have missed this.
The image of a young man screaming in the face of women gathering to discuss women's rights in 2019 <shudder>
Some things never change, it seems.

PurpleCrowbar Mon 02-Dec-19 04:25:29

Nice to wake up to.

Maybe the Beeb is starting to realise that we pay licence fees for Auntie, not Aunt Lydia.

Backinthecloset123 Mon 02-Dec-19 03:41:44

Humble apologies.

Backinthecloset123 Mon 02-Dec-19 03:40:01

I've searched, but where is the link to this? (Kiwi as well)

cordeliavorkosigan Mon 02-Dec-19 02:42:21

I clicked through on safari on my iPad and it played fine.

I love love love the point where the gender ideology claims that it wasn’t their bodies that made the first two women women, it was their identities.
Such an effective piece. We should post the transcript. Or ask the bbc to do so, if it’s copyrighted?

SpringFan Sun 01-Dec-19 22:08:41

its on BBC sounds, which doesn't need you to have a licence I think.

Flywheel Sun 01-Dec-19 18:26:26

Does anyone know if the text is available. Don't have access to iPlayer

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