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cwg1 Fri 29-Nov-19 15:42:50

Short story thing. Of course, damn device has been playing up and trying to post for ages...

Sparkyduchess Sat 30-Nov-19 21:29:25

That was unbelievably good, even better the second time I played it.

Gosbsmacked the BBC aired it !

GCAcademic Sat 30-Nov-19 21:31:08

This was really wonderful. I might just have nominated it for PotW too . . .

niceberg Sun 01-Dec-19 14:09:56

Oh gosh. Just listened. How brilliant in itself, and that it was on the BBC.

HollowTalk Sun 01-Dec-19 14:29:52

I've nominated it - such a shock that this was on the BBC.

Etinox Sun 01-Dec-19 16:06:40

Another one who’s dh sent me a link saying ‘you’ll love this!’

Flywheel Sun 01-Dec-19 18:26:26

Does anyone know if the text is available. Don't have access to iPlayer

SpringFan Sun 01-Dec-19 22:08:41

its on BBC sounds, which doesn't need you to have a licence I think.

cordeliavorkosigan Mon 02-Dec-19 02:42:21

I clicked through on safari on my iPad and it played fine.

I love love love the point where the gender ideology claims that it wasn’t their bodies that made the first two women women, it was their identities.
Such an effective piece. We should post the transcript. Or ask the bbc to do so, if it’s copyrighted?

Backinthecloset123 Mon 02-Dec-19 03:40:01

I've searched, but where is the link to this? (Kiwi as well)

Backinthecloset123 Mon 02-Dec-19 03:41:44

Humble apologies.

PurpleCrowbar Mon 02-Dec-19 04:25:29

Nice to wake up to.

Maybe the Beeb is starting to realise that we pay licence fees for Auntie, not Aunt Lydia.

ThePurported Mon 02-Dec-19 09:32:18

Wonderful, thank you op, I would have missed this.
The image of a young man screaming in the face of women gathering to discuss women's rights in 2019 <shudder>
Some things never change, it seems.

BovaryX Mon 02-Dec-19 10:19:16

One of the posters bears an image of a female mouth super glued shut

a lot of the protesters are men and Jo wonders why that is

Thank you for posting this link. What a superb piece. The fact the BBC is the forum suggests the media’s uncritical attitude to this issue is ending.....

merrymouse Mon 02-Dec-19 10:37:29

Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant!

"The young Joan read widely, kept a diary, outdid the boys in writings and mathematics at school and pictured being a scholar or a lawyer, but degrees for women were rarely and grudgingly offered. It was illegal for a woman to enter the legal profession"

Of Joanna "She did not have a bank account because she did not have her own money"

"Femaleness and maleness have changed they say, although they don't explain when and how this happened, only that it has. It was never the bodies of Joan or Joanna that made them women, it was that they identified as women".

TheWildPlaces Mon 02-Dec-19 11:17:23

I've just listened, and cried. Utterly brilliant. There is no way this would have been broadcast a year ago. We still have a long way to go here but something is shifting.

LondonLass61 Mon 02-Dec-19 11:21:48

Just amazing.

AllYouGoodGoodPeople Mon 02-Dec-19 17:05:59

That was very well done.

Manderleyagain Tue 03-Dec-19 13:33:57

Just got around to listening. Bloody Brilliant!

I read somewhere that it was commissioned.

The conversation itself is like a cursed book in a horror film - sums up the problem we have had. But this is helping to lift the curse.

SpringFan Sun 08-Dec-19 18:41:12

Its on POTW now!!
Well done us!

Etinox Sun 08-Dec-19 18:42:35

On radio 4 now! Did anyone catch how Adrian Chiles introduced it?

BoreOfWhabylon Sun 08-Dec-19 18:42:55


Adrian Chiles likes it too!

ErrolTheDragon Sun 08-Dec-19 19:23:05

Slight disappointment they chose a section which, whist powerful, was perhaps the 'easiest' and not remotely controversial.

Melroses Sun 08-Dec-19 19:28:56

Oh fuck, I was making the dinner whilst that was on and didn't listen angry I asked for it and all - thought they had sidelined it. So pleased it was on though.

Slight disappointment they chose a section which, whist powerful, was perhaps the 'easiest' and not remotely controversial. Sadly, that was inevitable, but it was all good so I am going to listen again whilst it is still there.

When is POW repeated?

Melroses Sun 08-Dec-19 19:29:58

Pick of the week.

Melroses Sun 08-Dec-19 19:33:01

Also on POW, the idea that smoking made women feel free!!! "Why haven't we evolved better to see through these tricks of the trade" (probably a misinterpretation of evolution there)

Gaslighting with cigarette lighting there.

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