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An insurance company now wishes to lecture us

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JustHereWithMyPopcorn Wed 27-Nov-19 20:39:39

Aviva shared these lovely tweets today. I am actually insured with them but I will not be renewing. And they are not bothered by customers leaving, clearly.

DodoPatrol Wed 27-Nov-19 20:44:38

Do they mean greater acceptance for lesbian and gay people in sports? Or acceptance of trans people in their birth sex categories? Either of those is to be applauded. It’s just inclusion in wrong-sex categories that’s the problem.

Yesyesitsme Wed 27-Nov-19 20:49:15

I'm all for including and welcoming the LGBT community in sports, and the rainbow laces campaign.

But I'm against transwomen competing in women's sports.

I don't think Aviva have done much wrong here.

GoFiguire Wed 27-Nov-19 20:49:39

I don’t understand what the problem is OP.

GetbusywiththeFizzee Wed 27-Nov-19 20:55:11

Shortly renewing insurance on a couple of properties, will give Aviva the wide berth they deserve. Good work Katie (and the numpty who left you in charge of the Twitter account) 👍

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD Wed 27-Nov-19 20:55:13

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD Wed 27-Nov-19 20:56:00

GoFiguire - just check out their tweets. All very wokeyblokey.

NotAssigned Wed 27-Nov-19 20:56:03

More tweets

OvaHere Wed 27-Nov-19 20:59:08

This is what happens when the waters are muddied by Stonewall because there are very different issues at play depending what part of the alphabet you focus on.

For example there is a big issue with lack of acceptance of gay men in team sports especially at a high level e.g. premiership football. I think tackling this is something many people would get behind.

However this is completely different to males competing and dominating in women's sports because of identity and pronouns.

Considering how much money Stonewall has I think it's pretty shoddy that they go for these vague soundbites and mantras that specify absolutely nothing.

It might be a shame that people are now telling them and anyone associated with them to fuck off but they've created all this distrust.

Procrastinator2 Wed 27-Nov-19 21:02:35

Jan Gooding, chair of Stonewall, used to work for Aviva.

AutumnRose1 Wed 27-Nov-19 21:08:07

“ This is what happens when the waters are muddied by Stonewall because there are very different issues at play depending what part of the alphabet you focus on.”


I must be honest, my elderly mother has insurance with them and this would piss her off but if I tell her, I’ll be the one looking for a new insurer and then that one will get stonewalled as well!

Coyoacan Wed 27-Nov-19 21:09:38

Well they obviously have more customers than they can deal with, don't they?

The campaign is not clear but the attitude of Kate ...

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD Wed 27-Nov-19 21:10:38

Not that Katie maybe...

Michelleoftheresistance Wed 27-Nov-19 21:16:06

Another company that won't rest until women have surrendered their lives, identities, spaces and sport to males.

They're off my list.

Baffled at why retail suddenly involves throwing your preaching and evangelism for advanced misogyny, or Momentum, or Ukip, or Christian Science, or whatever else politics you're personally high on. The point is supposed to be to get people to part with money to buy your product.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD Wed 27-Nov-19 21:17:31

They think persons will start throwing their money at them.

JustHereWithMyPopcorn Wed 27-Nov-19 21:22:05

Sorry I had to run out and do a DC pick up. My issue isn't about the inclusion of trans people in sport , although 60% said they didn’t feel excluded, of course anyone should be able to play sport. It’s was the tone of Katie and the sort of Lib Dem response to people who aren’t on their page. The Stonewall promotion in their tweet is the giveaway to what they mean by ‘inclusive’ and people are aware enough to pick up on it.

JacobReesClunge Wed 27-Nov-19 21:24:48

An insurance company preaching about welcoming everyone as equal is particularly hilarious.

TheABC Wed 27-Nov-19 21:26:11

Am I the only one who smirked at the "lycra surprise by Mr Motivator"? Poor employees.

Actually, I am wondering now if I can play with my annuity forecasts by declaring myself a transman. It will be interesting to see if they conflate sex and gender where their money is concerned.

stucknoue Wed 27-Nov-19 21:28:06

It's to stop homophobia in team sports! Well male team sports, they have a history of hounding out those who are gay

JustHereWithMyPopcorn Wed 27-Nov-19 21:32:34

That might be the case stucknoue but it doesn’t read that way to me. If it is about that then it should be specific about it’s aims.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD Wed 27-Nov-19 21:32:43

And now women are being hounded/pushed out of their sports, oh the irony!

spongedog Wed 27-Nov-19 21:34:52

@TheABC that is a good point! There was an EU ruling a few years ago about insurance companies not being able to use sex to distinguish risk. Perhaps that doesnt apply for gender.

JustHereWithMyPopcorn Wed 27-Nov-19 21:35:36

And I’m just reading another of Katie’s tweets about standing with people regardless of their gender identity. That doesn’t sound like male teams hounding out gay men to me.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD Wed 27-Nov-19 21:36:47

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD Wed 27-Nov-19 21:37:33

Oh they have their names and photos on their header! Why would a company do that?

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