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ImmortalityMyDarlings Wed 25-Sep-19 14:56:10

Where can I find everything one might need to know on Scotland and the GRA reforms there? I follow many Scottish women on Twitter but I’d be really grateful for links anyone has to summary articles/ websites about the GC position there. Thanks!

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fudgefan Wed 25-Sep-19 19:45:04

For background and up to date info on proposed GRA reform in Scotland:

forwomen.scot/
wgscotland.org.uk/
scottish-women.com/

BetsyM00 Wed 25-Sep-19 23:26:19

The Scottish GRA consultation closed in March 2018 and analysis of the responses was published last November:
www.gov.scot/publications/review-gender-recognition-act-2004-analysis-responses-public-consultation-exercise-report/

Nothing much happened for a while but we did manage to have a mini women's rights debate in Parliament over the Census questions:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1bUJH9fUN8
which is still ongoing!

And then Cabinet Secretary Shirley-Anne Somerville gave a statement to Parliament in June announcing her intention to introduce a draft Bill before the end of this year. It plans to remove the medical requirements of the GRA and have 3 months living in acquired gender before signing a statutory declaration, followed by another 3 month reflection period before birth certificates can be changed.
news.gov.scot/speeches-and-briefings/statement-on-gender-recognition

The awful school guidance written by LGBT Youth is to be replaced with government written guidance, and a working group has been set up to look at data collection, sex and gender.

But despite many promises in her statement on the importance of understanding women's concerns and meeting with women's groups, SA Somerville has refused to meet any non-government funded groups.
forwomen.scot/17/09/2019/consultation-with-stakeholders/

Ereshkigal Thu 26-Sep-19 15:39:54

SA Somerville has refused to meet any non-government funded groups.

That is really quite blatant. The purpose of a public consultation is to consult the public, not get your biased fait accompli agenda endorsed by approved government mouthpieces.

NoBackboneNoGumption Thu 26-Sep-19 17:39:05

So are they consulting again about the GRA just now?

Birdsfoottrefoil Thu 26-Sep-19 17:45:35

The awful school guidance written by LGBT Youth is to be replaced with awful school guidance written by stonewall EHRC

Birdsfoottrefoil Thu 26-Sep-19 17:47:25

They are also planning legislation around gender equality on public boards where the definition of ‘woman’ is having a stereotypically female name on your gas bill for a few months.

BetsyM00 Thu 26-Sep-19 18:47:15

So are they consulting again about the GRA just now?
Still waiting to hear what form the consultation will take, but it may just be on the details of the draft Bill eg. should it be a 3 month or 4 month reflective period.

The Gender Representation on Public Boards Act is already law, the recent consultation was on how best to implement it. It's all immaterial anyway as we could have 100% male boards and still be deemed to have a successful outcome under this Act - because it could well be 50% women but we're not even allowed to ask what their gas bills say!

BetsyM00 Thu 26-Sep-19 18:50:55

The awful school guidance written by LGBT Youth is to be replaced with awful school guidance written by stonewall EHRC

Quite possibly. Or even worse, it looks like LGBT Youth are getting the chance to rewrite it.

NoBackboneNoGumption Fri 27-Sep-19 16:07:24

Thanks Betsy. I wasn’t sure what was happening with it.

Quite possibly. Or even worse, it looks like LGBT Youth are getting the chance to rewrite it.

But wasn’t it withdrawn? Why would the same people get to rewrite it?

PickledGulag Fri 27-Sep-19 16:47:49

Also a reminder that groups are not considered for government funding unless they demonstrate full inclusiveness which is why the only opposition has come from grass roots. There question was asked in parliament last year, sorry don't have a link.

And today Morton of (government funded) Scottish Trans Alliance has published an article in the Herald trying to redefine the word sex, presumably as a further push to completely remove single sex protections under the equality act.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3702947-Come-read-this-please-Mortons-neverending-gaslighting-bullshit-steps-up-a-gear

BetsyM00 Fri 27-Sep-19 20:10:22

I'm the queen of links today. smile

PQ asked by Kezia Dugdale revealed all applicants for Equally Safe funding must demonstrate a trans inclusive policy.
Page 5: www.parliament.scot/S5ChamberOffice/WA20181204.pdf

And a subsequent FoI that showed this policy must specifically be transwomen inclusive:
www.gov.scot/binaries/content/documents/govscot/publications/foi-eir-release/2019/07/foi-19-01511/documents/foi-19-01511-information-released-a/foi-19-01511-information-released-a/govscot%3Adocument/FOI-19-01511%2BInformation%2Breleased%2B%2528a%2529.pdf

It was discussed at the EHRiC committee meeting yesterday where Forwomen.Scot gave evidence:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZK-FU0kUPk&t=3751s
At about 1:30:35

PickledGulag Fri 27-Sep-19 20:15:29

APPLAUSE for the lovely BetsyM00 grin

PickledGulag Fri 27-Sep-19 20:24:17

I remember it from a thread on here and how shocking it was to realise that so many charities/groups/schools etc are wholly reliant on government funding to survive and so have effectively had the option to question policy removed from them, a government sponsored silencing of dissent. shock

That is how this policy has gotten so far unchallenged, that is how Murray ended up being thrown out of school for challenging a teacher, that is how Cornton Vale ended up housing men. angry

So proud of our grass roots uprising in Scotland and the domino effect now rippling via our braver female politicians halo

NonnyMouse1337 Fri 27-Sep-19 20:30:33

Yes I'm very proud of the grassroots efforts of women in Scotland in getting this stuff out into the open!

ReinstateLangCleg Sat 14-Mar-20 09:44:13

CLOSES 17th March

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3833775-women-girls-in-scotland-gra-consultation-guidance

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3788251-Scottish-GRA-consultation

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