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Bunbury’s Public Service Announcement 3.1

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GirlDownUnder Mon 12-Aug-19 13:44:48

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

LangCleg Mon 12-Aug-19 13:55:30

Thanks, darling!

Always good to discuss community dynamics.

FermatsTheorem Mon 12-Aug-19 13:58:00

Can I suggest that when we spot signs of community disruption, we simply type "bump", without naming posters or threads.

One of the techniques of community disruption that became apparent on the deleted thread was the weaponising of the very complaints procedures meant to deal with disruption, namely reporting troll hunting and TAATs.

If we just type "bump" it will bring this thread to the top of active, where people new to this game will be able to read the very useful link in the OP.

Michelleoftheresistance Mon 12-Aug-19 13:58:52

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

^^ that is extremely useful advice.

Another element that can be useful to recognise in discussion to combat derailment:

Perseveration behaviour regarding detail, which may be minor irrelevant within the wider context.

GirlDownUnder Mon 12-Aug-19 14:02:22

If we just type "bump" it will bring this thread to the top of active

Nice 👍

But can we also type arrrgh and ask for gin tea if desperate pleeeease, for the gin brew

LangCleg Mon 12-Aug-19 15:07:02

Another thing to bear in mind: offence archaeology - which involves mining previous posts for reporting purposes.

youllhavehadyourtea Mon 12-Aug-19 15:09:03

Noted.

And bump.

Joisanofthedales Mon 12-Aug-19 15:45:10

Ok sorry to be ignorant. I've looked up what trolling and sealioning is but TAATs just brings up a lot of German sites which are obviously irrelevant. Could someone enlighten me please.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole Mon 12-Aug-19 15:46:10

Also noted. Thank you. thanks

MsJeminaPuddleduck Mon 12-Aug-19 15:47:13

'Thread about a thread' - it's a MN thing.

Joisanofthedales Mon 12-Aug-19 15:56:55

Thank you. Jargon can be so defeating when you don't understand it. smile

MsJeminaPuddleduck Mon 12-Aug-19 16:11:06

I was baffled by that one too

lady69 Mon 12-Aug-19 16:22:17

Delurks.... huzzah!!.... lurks...

NeurotrashWarrior Mon 12-Aug-19 16:48:34

Thanks Girl, been out in the mud and sun with kids all day and left my phone at home. Glad there's a 3.1 and a great, clear OP.

VickyEadie Mon 12-Aug-19 16:52:30

I've been away for a few days and missed all the action.

littlbrowndog Mon 12-Aug-19 17:21:06

Signing in 🍺🍺

littlbrowndog Mon 12-Aug-19 17:22:41

Just noticed. Ffs that minty chocolate magnum has made a right mess on my top.

When I rested my iPad on my top. Ffs. Totally irrelevant

ErrolTheDragon Mon 12-Aug-19 17:42:27

Here's a list of common MN acronyms for anyone baffled. There are others in use on this board so don't hesitate to ask if you can't deduce what one means.

https://www.mumsnet.com/info/acronyms

GrinitchSpinach Mon 12-Aug-19 18:44:30

Thank you for the new thread, Girl. I missed a lot yesterday/last night while painting kitchen cabinets!

Datun Mon 12-Aug-19 19:06:02

Also signing in.

Datun Mon 12-Aug-19 19:06:35

I miss our crazeee thigh friends, though.

TinselAngel Mon 12-Aug-19 19:10:53

* I miss our crazeee thigh friends, though.*

Bless their piss soaked souls.

SpartacusAutisticus Mon 12-Aug-19 19:28:58

Checking in.

wine

AnotherAdultHumanFemale Mon 12-Aug-19 21:13:49

Yay Bunbury is back!

I felt sad this morning to see the thread had gone. What a mess that was, ugh. Are we still being patient with the disruptors or ignoring them? By being patient and replying it filibusters and blows up the thread into oblivion, but I also understand why people use this technique. I woke up feeling like I'd wasted my time, those people seem to want to exhaust us and drive us mad.

While I'm here, I've been wondering, is Bunbury a location? It sounds like one of those little villages down south with flowers on the 'welcome' sign and a cosy pub. Perhaps across the river from Badley?

SisterWendyBuckett Mon 12-Aug-19 22:00:10

Bunbury bliss wine

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