Talk

Advanced search

Prostasia Foundation - Child protection or dismantling Safeguarding?

(108 Posts)
JustAnotherWoman Mon 10-Jun-19 13:39:41

Credit to Agilelass for flagging these people in the Dr Em Unicorns thread, I thought they warranted a thread of their own.

prostasia.org

They claim to be concerned about child protection but a look at what they are promoting and saying sounds to me far more like they are trying to dismantle safeguarding measures by saying they don't work.

They have/had a campaign in support of child sex dolls [anger]

Should we be worried about them? Anyone know anything more about the key players?

CharlieParley Tue 11-Jun-19 12:55:15

Children cannot be "sex workers" Any child in prostitution is a victim of child sexual exploitation. That this organisation has "sex work" aka prostitution as a branch on their organisational tree is questionable at best and as pp have pointed out, a dogwhistle of the real advocacy aims of this group.

I cannot recall a single child safeguarding organisation anywhere that also supports prostitution as "sex work" ie gives it's full-blown support to pimps and punters under the guise of supporting prostitutes. Especially because a very large number of prostitutes started out when they were still underage and especially because this involves the exploitation of vulnerable and often already victimised children.

Popchyk Sat 15-Jun-19 16:43:25

They are asking people to donate to them instead of the NSPCC, after the NSPCC canned Bergdorf.

In Jameela Jamil's thread.

twitter.com/ProstasiaInc/status/1137802820894068736

"We are a new child protection organization that is inclusive of LGBTQ people, kinky people, and sex workers, and includes them in leadership. If you're looking to transfer your donation from @NSPCC, consider us instead".

HumberElla Sat 15-Jun-19 17:04:38

I was wondering who funds them. So they’re looking for donations.

How very odd that they go out of their way to define kink as being sought after for leadership roles? Its now become the new ‘we would particularly welcome applicants from (insert protected characteristic) backgrounds’ etc etc.

LumpySpacedPrincess Sat 15-Jun-19 17:11:01

Jeez, was just coming on to start a thread.

I looked at the people who liked their post and this person claims to be their director.

Interesting profile.....

ThePurported Sat 15-Jun-19 17:11:38

I thought they would. Not sure why they think they are a suitable alternative. They're not, not even on paper.

Popchyk Sat 15-Jun-19 17:19:35

Yes, there's a real push for kink to be included under "diversity". And of course paedophilia counts as kink for the perverts. And they're the ones doing the pushing.

They are meeting zero resistance with groups like Stonewall and Pride though. Or the NSPCC. That's the real problem.

I wish some senior people at any of those organisations would get a grip of this. Maybe spend a tenth of the energy that they spend denouncing TERFs in actively challenging the boundary creep of fetishism and paedophilia into the LGBT.

But they won't. They're in too deep.

HumberElla Sat 15-Jun-19 17:21:11

Ok, that’s nice, so you put all your personal sexual preferences right out there on your profile. Very empowering. Good for you.

So tell me again how this information relates to your employment or underpins your role as a director in a child protection org? Also the finger logo, just a little bit confrontational, no?

OrchidInTheSun Sat 15-Jun-19 17:26:03

They are pushing for 'non-offending paedophiles' to be recognised as legitimate sexuality.

https://twitter.com/prostasiainc/status/1138219011332853760?s=21

Jeremy believes that all adult men want to fuck teenagers and there is no problem with that. It's whether and how they act on it that's the problem. Not just if but how they do it. Note the how. Jeremy is a lawyer, he has chosen his words carefully.

They believe that censorship puts children at risk and by condemning paraphilias, we are driving them underground.

Jeremy reminds me of Jane Fae

HumberElla Sat 15-Jun-19 17:26:07

Maybe middle aged women could start putting kink on their cvs. And applying for senior positions as LGBTQK.

Humber loves petting her 40+ furries and her interests also include reading, trying new recipes and dogging. Can I be director now, Pleeeeeeease?!!

LumpySpacedPrincess Sat 15-Jun-19 17:32:07

Mmmm...they are also pro hentai which is over sexualized manga...lovely...just lovely..

LumpySpacedPrincess Sat 15-Jun-19 17:45:36

So this guy writes articles for them

Apparently he was convicted for possessing child porn.

LumpySpacedPrincess Sat 15-Jun-19 17:47:48

medium.com/*@guy*.hamilton.smith

LumpySpacedPrincess Sat 15-Jun-19 17:48:30

hmmm...link doesn't seem to work now...

OrchidInTheSun Sat 15-Jun-19 17:50:38

https://prostasia.org/blog/author/guy-hamilton-smith/

Lumpy

OrchidInTheSun Sat 15-Jun-19 17:55:47

https://eu.cincinnati.com/story/news/local/northern-ky/2014/02/06/man-on-ky-sex-offender-list-appeals-court-decision-so-he-can-practice-law/5245607/

Poor man is a sex addict apparently and has never been able to take the Bar because of this silly mistake he made in his youth

HumberElla Sat 15-Jun-19 18:00:51

So now the MAPs are perfectly comfortable in plain sight it would seem. And clubbing together to form their own child protection organisations.

And why wouldn’t you, in a climate when the leading child protection agency in the country is happy to defend porn being made and published online from their premises. By their staff.

LumpySpacedPrincess Sat 15-Jun-19 19:02:08

These people cannot get into schools, they just can't..

Deliriumoftheendless Sat 15-Jun-19 19:15:39

I’m very flattered to have been confused with Lang Cleg!

OrchidInTheSun Sat 15-Jun-19 19:17:21

Prostasia is in the US.

FaithFrank Sat 15-Jun-19 19:26:25

It is a registered charity in California http://rct.doj.ca.gov/Verification/Web/Details.aspx?result=ca85d74c-9e20-46c6-8ea9-4704d37f22db

HumberElla Sat 15-Jun-19 19:32:05

California. Figures.

BuzzShitbagBobbly Sat 15-Jun-19 22:38:17

In Jameela Jamil's thread. ^ https://twitter.com/ProstasiaInc/status/11378028208940687366

Is she still blowing smoke up everyone's asses?

AgileLass Sat 15-Jun-19 23:39:03

Creepy as fuck and brazen as hell

SquishySquirmy Sat 15-Jun-19 23:51:22

... child protection (the right to body integrity), sex worker rights, digital rights, due process rights, and so on ...

So they define "child protection" as "the right to body integrity"
Which could be twisted to mean the right of children to "consent" (to anything). We rightly do not recognise children as being able to consent to certain things. We know there are those who would like to change this.
So in a couple of leaps, "child protection" can be distorted to mean the exact opposite.
Definitions are so important, aren't they?

ThePurported Sat 15-Jun-19 23:54:34

I'm bewildered, the exec director seems to be a professional in the data privacy policy space, why on earth would he publicly associate himself with these aims

Quite.
I found an interesting article about his employer EFF - the author suggests that it's a corporate front for Silicon Valley. thebaffler.com/salvos/all-effd-up-levine
If that's true, the simple explanation for JM's weird career move is that Prostasia is another front group set up to oppose child protection legislation that threatens Silicon Valley interests, since porn (the legal kind) is the biggest business on the internet. Hence the 'sex work'/kink advocacy angle.

Join the discussion

Registering is free, quick, and means you can join in the discussion, watch threads, get discounts, win prizes and lots more.

Get started »