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Are you Gender Diverse - then take part in the Gendered Intelligence survey

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theOtherPamAyres Mon 08-Apr-19 14:04:57

Gendered intelligence have a survey to help them plan the next five years. They've asked that the survey be shared and broadcast widely

You might be gender diverse, trans, gender free, an ally or 'Other' and it is really asking only one question - how can GI help to transform the lives of trans people, including young people and children?

docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScFdShPsCJ81AU3d8oOyG0nBsTYflpt9C9CPvDFqKmCrBoScw/viewform

Any thoughts on what Gendered Intelligence should look like in 5 years time?

R0wantrees Mon 08-Apr-19 14:21:40

Gendered Intelligence response to medical professionals whistleblown Safeguarding & Duty of Care concerns towards children is very concerning.
By dismissing investigative journalism based on interviews with professionals out of hand, they are demonstrating their failure to understand/respect Safeguarding & Child Protection frameworks.

see thread discussing articles in Times today:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3553935-Times-article-calls-to-end-transgender-experiment-on-children

theOtherPamAyres Mon 08-Apr-19 14:50:26

Will Gendered Intelligence be around in 5 years time?

Doubt it.

Ereshkigal Wed 10-Apr-19 08:52:43

Let's hope not.

HorsewithnoLycra Wed 10-Apr-19 09:03:05

Gendered intelligence sounds a bit oxyMORONIC to me.

Ereshkigal Wed 10-Apr-19 09:03:39

Indeed.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole Wed 10-Apr-19 13:20:10

My mate shared this on facebook this morning, they class themselves as 'non-binary' and apparently their suggestions were for gendered intelligence to start campaigning for third spaces for NB/trans people as the current campaigning of trying to make current areas mixed sex helps noone, especially not NB people. Good response I think, and makes a hell of a lot of sense as those who call themselves non-binary AND transwomen/transmen could use the areas, and a lot of the issues disappear in one swoop.

I have a feeling gendered intelligence will ignore responses like that though somehow hmm

HorsewithnoLycra Wed 10-Apr-19 13:23:36

My mate shared this on facebook this morning, they class themselves as 'non-binary'..

Just out of curiosity is your mate gay?

(I believe you can be both non binary and gay)

MsMarvellous Wed 10-Apr-19 14:36:14

Well I responded but I doubt they'll like my answers

WeRiseUp Wed 10-Apr-19 14:44:25

I believe you can be both non binary and gay

How does that work?

RiddleyW Wed 10-Apr-19 14:46:34

How does that work?

How would it not? Can't see how that's harder than being non binary and straight.

polarpig Wed 10-Apr-19 15:03:55

not sure they will like my answers either.

theOtherPamAyres Wed 10-Apr-19 15:10:45

This morning I was reading the toolkits and checklists that Gendered Intelligence provided for schools in my local authority area.

It might be a good idea for GI to spend the next five years recalling the advice and republishing accurate information about the law and practice.

I'm not sure that schools will feel able to accept the revisions, updates and corrections from a GI source, once the scandal of affirming trans identities in children plays out.

Carriemac Wed 10-Apr-19 16:09:17

This is a great chance to give them some constructive feedback!

WorkingItOutAsIGo Wed 10-Apr-19 16:17:12

That survey is worth less than the pixels it is displayed on! There is no way they can use it for any real purpose.

CuriousaboutSamphire Wed 10-Apr-19 18:53:40

Not sure they'll like this Genderfree response either!

Ereshkigal Wed 10-Apr-19 19:27:26

How would it not? Can't see how that's harder than being non binary and straight.

Surely you would generally have to be pansexual by default as you don't believe you personally have a sex or binary "gender" and you wouldn't reject all non binaries as a category? That would be a bit transphobic!

It would be quite funny if they did though grin"it's not you, it's the blue hair and extreme navel gazing. Yes I know I have it too."

BackOnceAgainWithABurnerEmail Wed 10-Apr-19 19:57:09

I think NB only reject their own gender.

WorkingItOutAsIGo Wed 10-Apr-19 20:39:54

The point is there is no real data collection about who is filling in the survey so I could have filled it in as a trans woman and they would not have known. And once you have done it it literally invites you to fill it in again. Seriously poorly designed.

heresyisthenewblack Thu 11-Apr-19 02:18:08

Interesting! May take a look. I am, after all, whatever gender identity it is that doesn't have a gender identity! (So it makes me trans?)

CuriousaboutSamphire Thu 11-Apr-19 06:56:24

And once you have done it it literally invites you to fill it in again. And I am not one to refuse a polite invitation.... smile

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole Thu 11-Apr-19 13:19:39

Just out of curiosity is your mate gay?

They were. They now say they are pansexual. But only ever seem to go with males still.

IsadoraQuagmire Thu 11-Apr-19 13:43:48

Hahaha I told them exactly what I thought!

HorsewithnoGender Thu 11-Apr-19 16:33:57

They were. They now say they are pansexual. But only ever seem to go with males still.

It sounds to me as tho' your mate who is obviously gay will self describe himself as anything but gay.

Next question: do you know your mates parents?

Are either of them massive homophobes by any chance?

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole Thu 11-Apr-19 18:21:05

Not really. They are very religious though, I know thats not automatically homophobic but..it tends to be more often. Mind, he never said his parents had any issue, but hes not a close close friend so maybe he wouldn't. His coming out as gay was quite uneventful, he was pissed off not more fuss was made apparently, where other gay friends said they would much prefer their parents to be just like 'oh, ok'. Hes still quite young compared to me, so expecting he will grow out of this when its not trendy anymore. Hes changed nothing. But he seems to be 'sensible' rather than screaming at people about pronouns and such so...meh.

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