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Gestational Carriersnet - doesn't quite have the same ring to it

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Micke Wed 16-Jan-19 15:07:15

If you are carrying a baby which isn't biologically yours and that you intend to hand over at birth, you are a gestational carrier

What? The DNA - two little cells weren't yours (which is only 50% less yours than a baby fertilized the conventional way).

By the time that baby is born, every molecule in that baby was created by you. It shared your blood supply - your breathing, your heart, lungs and kidneys kept that baby alive. You weren't just carrying it, or incubating it like a chicken egg - you were providing everything that that baby is made of.

Gestational carrier isn't an accurate description at all, neither is the idea that the baby isn't biologically that woman's - if they provided everything to grow it, sounds pretty bloody biological to me.

Genetically is a better word in this case in my opinion.

Micke Wed 16-Jan-19 15:02:40

It frightens me how many women must be being used like this in order for it to be necessary to select it on a form.

Surrogacy is wrong on every level. Buying babies is wrong. Buying a woman's body to create a baby is wrong.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds Wed 16-Jan-19 15:01:15

I've had my arse handed to me before, for using the term gestational carrier on MN. I've thought about it since then and I do still think that the person whose DNA made the baby, is the mother. If you are carrying a baby which isn't biologically yours and that you intend to hand over at birth, you are a gestational carrier and not a mother.
That's not to say that what she has done isn't amazing or should be treated as if she has done something which is no big deal.
There's a lot wrong with commercial surrogacy, but I don't think this term is the problem - it's just a means of differentiating between the person whose DNA made the baby, the one who is taking the baby home and the person who grew the baby but has no genetic link to it or emotional bond.

Bittermints Wed 16-Jan-19 14:48:59

That's how I feel about it, MagicMix. I have great sympathy with the few cases where a woman does an incredibly altruistic thing for a close relative or friend who can't have a baby of her own. But when it starts to get more like ordering a baby from a catalogue, no personal connection between the woman and the baby's adoptive parents, I do worry. What happens to the baby if it has a serious medical condition? Do the adoptive parents walk away?

FloralBunting Wed 16-Jan-19 14:46:58

Nothing to do with PC terms? It's everything to do with PC terms, and I completely agree with MagicMix.

MagicMix Wed 16-Jan-19 14:39:01

In this particular case, it seems that "gestational carrier" means "surrogate mother"

I think we all know that. I know what it is supposed to mean and I object to it.

Commercial surrogacy is the exploitation of women and calling a woman who carried a baby in her womb, created every cell in its body with her own body, and then birthed that baby a 'carrier' like she is just a sort of bag that has nothing to do with the baby is dehumanising and misogynistic.

userschmoozer Tue 15-Jan-19 23:06:36

I wondered how soon surrogate mothers would be dehumanised.

Weezol Tue 15-Jan-19 22:42:48

Woman as did I.

womanformallyknownaswoman Tue 15-Jan-19 21:59:29

I laughed out loud as I thought it was the new name for MN grin

GrumpyGran8 Tue 15-Jan-19 21:54:27

I'll add that, having looked through the tweeter's timeline, I'm pretty sure she knew damm well what the term actually meant, but was just using it as a stick to beat the "commie PC liberals" with.
Personally, I wouldn't follow her - there are plenty of intelligent, well-informed UK women to follow!

GrumpyGran8 Tue 15-Jan-19 21:49:51

I think it's Illinois. In this particular case, it seems that "gestational carrier" means "surrogate mother", to differentiate them from the woman who will be taking the baby home.
Nothing to do with PC terms, just an indication of how surrogacy has become big business in the US.

Bittermints Tue 15-Jan-19 21:22:53

Yes, I was just looking this up. Not a term I'd come across before.

SignMeUp Tue 15-Jan-19 21:19:13

I believe this is applied in the case of surrogacy and adoption. The biological mother is listed on the original document. Then a court order is used to modify it. I think each state is different, but that is the general idea.

ChewyLouie Tue 15-Jan-19 20:54:11

I would have welcomed a gestational carrier during the last week of my pregnancy when I was constantly breathless and tired. They could have carried me around everywhere on their shoulders in one of those sedan chairs.

Voice0fReason Tue 15-Jan-19 20:44:54

Incubator then!
I'll stick with mother thanks.

Katvonbatshitmermaid Tue 15-Jan-19 20:44:17

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

These people. Fucking nuts

Bittermints Tue 15-Jan-19 20:35:38

Don't know which US state this is but clearly the legislature had a bulk delivery of KoolAid.

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