Are women hated because we are weak?

[CrazyToast]

I'm sure there's been a thread about this before but I am wondering again- why do we hate women?

Straight men hate women.
Women often seem to hate women.
Transwomen often seem to hate women.
Gay men often often seem to hate women.

Why? What is it about us which is so detestable?

Is it because we are seen as weak due to femininity? Our reliance on men? That we have not contributed as much to society as men allegedly?

Is because women can have children and men can't?

Is it because straight men want sex with us so much and we control that?

[SlowlyShrinking]

No, because we’re strong and can create life

[SlowlyShrinking]

To control fertility so men can be sure they’re raising their own genetic offspring

[NorthEndGal]

People hate what they fear and dont understand.

[Nicknamesalltaken]

Women know women aren’t weak.

A woman’s ‘weakness’ is a myth created long ago by the patriarchy to keep women in their place.

It’s still perpetuated by both men and women out of fear. Women together are a powerful force.

[WeRiseUp]

You can't maintain a patriarchy without misogyny.

Every small act of misogyny is a vital component for upholding the male dominated status quo.

[Badmoonsarising]

I imagine it’s a factor, also that we are the gatekeepers to sex snd that pisses men off. The ridiculously extreme feminity you see and porn can make us look ridiculous and shallow.

[Knicknackpaddyflak]

You've got it the wrong way up.

Hate is driven by a sense of threat. What is it about women that some men find so very, very threatening?

Clue: it isn't a behaviour or characteristic that women could stop doing or identify out of in order to 'stop deserving to be abused'.

[CrazyToast]

@Knicknackpaddyflak So what causes the threat?

[Nuffaluff]

I really don’t agree with your assertion that there are all these people out there hating women. I think most people like women. I can count on my hands the number of people I’ve met who hate women. Once I’ve identified that I steer clear of them.
The people who hate women are fucked up. Some of them are very visible on the internet. Maybe that’s why it feels like a lot of people to you.

[FestiveNut]

Nah, people tolerate weak women. It's the strong they don't like. Hence the invention of corsets back in the day. Femininity was synonymous with weakness.

[WeRiseUp]

I'd say its because a woman can produce a small tribe from her cunt.

If sisters stick around with mum, this tribe can get bigger, and bigger and bigger as the generations stick with mum, gran and so on. It is huge power being able to produce a tribe and small army from your cunt.

Men need to be able to interrupt this power to take control.

[RebelWitchFace]

So what causes the threat?

A simplistic answer would be the fact that we are equal human beings with brains and wants and needs and that threatens small minded,low self esteem men that need us to be lower so they can boost themselves up.

[knittedmouse]

I find women to be more capable and sensible than men. We're not as physically strong and we don't tend to take unnecessary risks, but most of the men I've encountered seem to have issues in a way that most women don't.

I think they have aggression and anger drives which make them unhappy. They seem to resent us because we don't have all that competitive stuff going on and that we don't feel the need to dominate anything and everything around us.

Most of the gay men I've worked with seem to hate women the most and I'd like to know why that is. Some of them have filthy mouths and speak about us as though we're subhuman.

[KlutzyDraconequus]

I reckon some straight men hate women because they can't get laid, and that's obviously woemns fault.

[WeRiseUp]

I'd like to know why

I think it envy about straight men fancying us and envy about our ability to be mothers.

[colditz]

IT'S BECAUSE MEN THINK WE MIGHT TRICK THEM INTO RAISING ANOTHER MAN'S CHILD.

That's what is at the heart of this, and animal research bears this out. Human females have hidden fertility - nobody can tell when we are able to become pregnant. We are ALWAYS sexually available and often responsive and enthusiastic even when not fertile. This is not the case in most other animals and as a result you see considerably less sexual control and violence, even in typically violent species.

While heterosexual men enjoy this enthusiasm, they are deeply suspicious of it. They suspect that left to our own devices, we will be enthusiastic to EVERYONE and become pregnant with the uterus they consider reserved for their semen.

Further to that, until recently, there was no way of telling if the child a man was raising was his, his brother's or his neighbour's. The only way to ensure that it's his child is to control the magical tricksy vagina, and by necessity, the pesky 'person' attached to it.

COntrolling another person is difficult, and controlling an adult with equal rights to you is nigh impossible, so naturally it was recognised that women CAN'T be adults with equal rights to real people, otherwise how can we ever stop the constant flow of foreign semen into the vaginas women are inexplicably attached to?

Men are more hostile to male immigrants than female immigrants - they don't like the idea of foreign semen polluting the local baby holes.

Men like inexperience (youth, sometimes illegally young, virginal, 'first time' porn, cloistered/burkhas) and vulnerability (high heels, porn focusing on 'stranded teen' stories, impractical clothing) and high availability only to HIM.

It's incredibly easy to persuade a not very bright 19 year old to take their clothes off for money. We only see it being done to boys in gay porn. We see it done to girls all the time - and even when it's clear the woman in the pornography is considerably older than teenaged, she is 'advertised' as teenaged, like someone switching a use-by-date on a pear. We see it done by men, in short. And it's because youth, stupidity, vulnerability, it's all saleable, and it's saleable because it makes us controllable, and they want us controllable.

Women in their late thirties and early 40s are amongst the most despised women on Earth, especially Western women. Why? Just TRY and control us, that's why. And we're still fertile. We can put whatever baby we want into our uterus and they cannot stop us. And they hate us for it.

[Nicknamesalltaken]

I also think the pressure on men to be strong/emotionless/boys don’t cry plays a role. It’s not a natural state, but stereotypes still demand it. There’s an envy of women, our abilities, our relationships.

The patriarchy lets men down as it does women, yet it’s still a woman’s battle.

Smash the patriarchy is what I say.

[HolgerLowCarbingLoser]

Women are hated for our strength, by weak men.

[Pulltheotheroneitsgotbellson]

I think you're asking the wrong question OP - perhaps consider why some men think they're entitled to dominate and subjugate women. Why do they think violence against women is acceptable in many forms? Why do they view women and children as property of theirs? Why do they think that women are lesser beings, unworthy of equitable rights?

It's nothing to do with what women do or not do, but a profound thinking error that governs all the behaviour of these types of men.

[howonearthdidwegethere]

Came across this piece a while back (on 'womb envy'):

medium.com/applied-intersectionality/i-bet-youve-never-heard-of-womb-envy-and-i-bet-you-re-exemplifying-it-804e1ec93687

[sockunicorn]

you dont hate weak people. you pity them. you hate competition and people that are potentially better than you.

[GenderIsAPrison]

I get this vibe from some of the young arrogant male colleagues who are junior to me.

I think it’s their arrogant superiority (or inferiority?) complex , it’s as if they can’t stand the thought that I got o my level being a woman and they are better than me.

[GenderIsAPrison]

Seems something very primal and subconscious.
Evolutionary biology must have something to say about this.

[GenderIsAPrison]

Maybe it is male survival instinct.

Let’s face it, to continue the human race, the world does not need men apart from their sperm.

It’s survival instinct, they have to maintain control and the patriarchy in order not to become irrelevant and extinct.

It seems far fetched...I don’t know.....just thinking aloud....

[WeRiseUp]

No I agree. Men have an instinctive terror of becoming superfluous. That's why they fight so hard and do so many stupid, selfish things to give their life a heroic arc.