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TwistedStitch Sun 07-Oct-18 13:05:55

Not sure if this has already been posted. Lily Madigan, the women's officer, saying that a group of women they disagree with can go fuck themselves. Labour are a fucking joke.

TwistedStitch Sun 07-Oct-18 13:07:24

mobile.twitter.com/LilyMadigan99/status/1048363397958565888

MoseShrute Sun 07-Oct-18 13:08:01

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C0untDucku1a Sun 07-Oct-18 13:10:47

Ill add it to the email to my female mp too.

IStandWithPosie Sun 07-Oct-18 13:11:54

Why are the Labour Party ignoring someone who represents them speaking like that and swearing at people? It baffles me. If this was another LP representative I have no doubt they would be removed from their position.

TerfedOff Sun 07-Oct-18 13:12:17

Only labour can do anything about this person. I will email my labour MP and bring it to his attention. I'm going to email him again to invite him to the meeting on Tuesday anyway so I'll just add it in.

ScipioAfricanus Sun 07-Oct-18 13:12:53

Ugh. What a disgusting thing to say.

NopeNi Sun 07-Oct-18 13:13:01

Lily's just a troll who gets off on attention.

Not had much lately, hence this.

AnyFucker Sun 07-Oct-18 13:15:20

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ChrysanthemumsAreMums Sun 07-Oct-18 13:16:12

Oh, is they back from their LA odyssey with Cara Delevigne and some sequins?

<yawns> <hides thread>

kesstrel Sun 07-Oct-18 13:20:09

It's appalling. Not just the disregard for women's concerns, but the inappropriateness in a Labour official. But I've given up hoping for better from them.

ThinkIveFoundYourMarbles Sun 07-Oct-18 13:21:11

If my name and position were well known locally and I tweeted something like this, I would be very heavily disciplined by my workplace.

TwistedStitch Sun 07-Oct-18 13:21:24

Why on earth has MoseShrute been deleted??

ToeToToe Sun 07-Oct-18 13:22:19

I like the look of the first reply too wink

"A disgrace to the Labour movement." Hear hear.

TwistedStitch Sun 07-Oct-18 13:23:15

If you click the link in the second post you can read the responses to the tweet. I forgot to put it in the OP.

McTufty Sun 07-Oct-18 13:25:26

Whatever one’s views on the trans issue, that tweet is unprofessional and disgusting. Telling people you represent to go fuck themselves at all, let alone in so many words, is astonishing behaviour.

And if you’re going to be a women’s officer you have to take on board the views of and represent all women, not just those you agree with.

MaisyPops Sun 07-Oct-18 13:25:33

ThinkIveFoundYourMarbles
I think that's true of most people to be fair.

Somehow LM managed to build a name for themselves moving from human who liked tweeting about how a female sport event for women was mean and discriminatory towards men only to reinvent themselves claiming to be a woman who is amusingly fixated on being rude and aggressive to women.

I cancelled my labour party membership because of the party's inability to get a handle on idiots like LM.

AnyFucker Sun 07-Oct-18 13:26:24

Thanks

ToeToToe Sun 07-Oct-18 13:27:47

Thank you OP. First reply in full:

"Young <redacted> you disgrace the Labour movement with your misogyny. You offer nothing but narcissism, vacuity & spite. The grown-ups who recklessly empowered you are guilty of dereliction of duty."

#misogyny

@johnmcdonnellMP @jeremycorbyn @tom_watson @HarrietHarman @YvetteCooperMP

I feel that first response covers everything I feel about this tweet. Well said.

FermatsTheorem Sun 07-Oct-18 13:27:54

Time to resurrect the "TERF translator", which was a suggestion in here a while back: every time you see a tweet saying "TERF" replace it with the phrase "woman/women who say things I don't agree with", read the tweet aloud, and see how it reads. It's a very revealing exercise and really brings home the extent to which "TERF" functions as a replacement for "witch".

LizzieSiddal Sun 07-Oct-18 13:29:33

That tweet is disgraceful.
They seem to go through a “phase” like this every so often, delete offending tweets then carry on as if nothing had happened.

I do wonder what they’ll have to say before they have to face any kind of disciplinary action. Women labour members have been in trouble for saying far less.

PurpleCrowbar Sun 07-Oct-18 13:30:21

One of my social media accounts is not in my full name (well, none of them are).

Some time ago, I posted something along the lines of 'so fucked off with <local company who'd given me poor service>', & my line manager, who is a friend, Had A Quiet Word.

I pointed out that I wasn't readily identifiable to service users, didn't have any of them as SM friends, & was not referencing anything even remotely connected to work - to which the response was '...& that's why this is a conversation, not a disciplinary, but no effing in future, please!'

I promptly defriended & blocked my manager - who was fine about that! - but have been rather more circumspect since, anyway.

LM is tweeting ex officio. Why has LM still got an 'officio'?!

This shouldn't be OK in any professional capacity. Regardless of LM's opinions.

AnyFucker Sun 07-Oct-18 13:30:22

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AnyFucker Sun 07-Oct-18 13:31:21

*out

NameChangedAgain18 Sun 07-Oct-18 13:31:24

As an academic, I feel desperately sorry for the lecturers who are going to have to teach this individual.

NopeNi Sun 07-Oct-18 13:32:56

MNHQ delete and ban people for saying that though Any. Because we live in a world going batshit crazy.

AnyFucker Sun 07-Oct-18 13:35:05

I have stated the truth on several occasions, Nope Not been censored for that specific reason yet.

TwistedStitch Sun 07-Oct-18 13:36:21

And here is 'Labour's youngest councillor'. Once again the grown ups do nothing whilst the misogynistic kids run amok.

status/1048559555213492225

TwistedStitch Sun 07-Oct-18 13:36:59

mobile.twitter.com/JonConnorLyons/status/1048559555213492225

ShackUp Sun 07-Oct-18 13:37:02

namechanged Lily's lack of critical thinking and circumspection will be a real barrier to learning/achieving at university.

charlyn Sun 07-Oct-18 13:37:48

Is LM actually accountable to anybody? It seems LM can tweet whatever the hell they want like they are untouchable or something.

ToeToToe Sun 07-Oct-18 13:39:01

Anyfucker - I got a strike for saying similar - so I'm careful now.

AtrociousCircumstance Sun 07-Oct-18 13:40:57

Fucking hell. I am leaving the Labour Party today.

AnyFucker Sun 07-Oct-18 13:41:37

I know toe Not dismissing it has happened at all.

In context, I see no problem with stating biological facts.So I will comtinue to do so.

MaisyPops Sun 07-Oct-18 13:42:44

charlyn
Seemingly not. They seem to be able to do and say what they like.

What s frustrating is that it's so obvious that there's a massive difference between trans people who just want to get on with their lives, have whatever hormones and surgery alleviates their dysphoria and are perfectly reasonable people and the LM types of TRA who are more interested in shutting women up then working towards a more egalitarian society for all minority groups.

ToeToToe Sun 07-Oct-18 13:44:12

It's so fucking ridiculous, Anyfucker. Grown women having their language policed this way makes me very angry.

FermatsTheorem Sun 07-Oct-18 13:44:17

Join the club Atrocious - I left getting on for a year ago.

MaisyPops Sun 07-Oct-18 13:46:45

Same fermats.

I was going to join the greens instead but you know...

I just want a centre left party who believe in protecting women's rights whilst supporting the right of trans people to access whatever support is required, surgery etc without shitting on women. I never thought it was a big ask.

VickyEadie Sun 07-Oct-18 13:47:23

I left Labour over their 'pro-trans, anti-women' stance.

And this kind of behaviour from one of their most feted trans people upholds my decision. Labour is a cesspit.

Which MP was it who said she was 'keeping a seat warm in the house of Commons' for Madigan?

YourVagesty Sun 07-Oct-18 13:49:10

I'd love to know the percentage of women who have discontinued their Labour membership over the past year.

Sarahjconnor Sun 07-Oct-18 13:51:09

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bzzbeebzz Sun 07-Oct-18 13:53:30

I believe LM is now at Goldsmiths. I pass through the immediate area (Deptford) on foot very regularly. It is generally a quite deprived area, with lots of socio-economic issues. It will be interesting and revealing to see if LM, a Labour activist, gets involved to help change and improve things for ordinary poor people. Or will they stick to campaigning for middle class men to express themselves in a way that affects women and girls’ safety.

frazzled1 Sun 07-Oct-18 13:54:35

LM also tweeted

My favourite terfs are the ones who think I paid for a mini break to LA. I wish I had that kind of money spare.
3:41 PM · Oct 5, 2018

under @LilyMadigan99. @madigan_lily's tweets are now protected, wonder what's being said there....

LangCleg Sun 07-Oct-18 13:55:57

I am leaving the Labour Party today.

Good luck with that. I cancelled my membership six months ago and they still won't go away.

GDPR instruction to delete my info looks like the only way.

MaisyPops Sun 07-Oct-18 13:56:14

Isnt Goldsmiths the university where an academic has doubled their publishing record by publishing in his/her/their male and female names.

I think the academic is biologically male, lived most of their life as a man but has transitioned later and now publishes 2 author papers in their male & female names.

I can't remember where I read it though. A link on here I think.

NameChangedAgain18 Sun 07-Oct-18 13:57:47

It will be interesting and revealing to see if LM, a Labour activist, gets involved to help change and improve things for ordinary poor people.

I seriously hope Lily stays well away from poor people. There was a statement released earlier this year by a group that supports vulnerable women in the area - they condemned Goldmith’s TRAs for trying to pushed their privileged form of activism on these women and for derailing valuable projects with their elitist Pomo bullshit.

LangCleg Sun 07-Oct-18 13:58:25

It will be interesting and revealing to see if LM, a Labour activist, gets involved to help change and improve things for ordinary poor people.

The most likely answer is that Lily will join a Goldsmiths outreach programme and destroy local initiatives that actually help people in favour of lecturing them about pronouns and the more important oppression suffered by upper middle class adolescents with blue hair.

See: www.feministcurrent.com/2018/03/23/leftist-women-uk-refuse-accept-labours-attempts-silence-critiques-gender-identity/

NameChangedAgain18 Sun 07-Oct-18 14:00:09

Maisie - yes, that person (those people?) is at Goldmiths and has also been active in orchestrating smear campaigns against feminist academics.

Budgieinaberet Sun 07-Oct-18 14:00:42

Lily is the gift that keeps on giving.

If any labour MP' s think this is acceptable please can they come here and tell us why

nauticant Sun 07-Oct-18 14:03:15

My theory is that LM is angling to be removed from their position. If they come to the end of their year with their current achievements as their record in office, they'll look rubbish. If they are "sacked because of transphobia" they'll be able to hide behind that for years.

AngryAttackKittens Sun 07-Oct-18 14:08:28

I realize that Delevigne has resting pissed off face (which I rather like about her), but even with that taken into account she looked irritable in her photos with Madigan. Did they fly over together? Imagine being stuck on a plane with someone who tweets like that...

Blistory Sun 07-Oct-18 14:11:29

I wonder how Lily reconciles her tweets with being a speaker for “kinder, gentler, politics”. Wonder what she’ll have to say about that on 16 Oct.

ToeToToe Sun 07-Oct-18 14:13:07

I just read the "Molly" thread on here - can't make head nor tail of it, to be quite honest. It's baffling.

I'm wondering when/how LW politics/Labour/Green Party etc was completely taken over by wet-behind-the-ears posh kids called Molly, Tristan & Nate - who claim be oppressed in various ways?? I think it might have happened while I was having babies/caring for young children. Suddenly the world has gone mad.

AngryAttackKittens Sun 07-Oct-18 14:18:34

I live in hope that some day the trade unionists will regain control of the Labour party and all the people with names like Tristan PoshGit Summerville-Farquar will find something else to do when they're bored because they have too much family money to ever need a real job.

MaisyPops Sun 07-Oct-18 14:20:34

I wonder how Lily reconciles her tweets with being a speaker for “kinder, gentler, politics”.
I'd take bets on it being essentially 'this is my ideology and my story and my ideas and if you don't unconditionally affirm my view then you're not kind or gentle and have no place in politics. No platform anyone who doesn't agree with me. Ohhh you've drawn attention to the many times I've advocated violence and verbally abused women who don't agree with me?? The thing is that I was acting in self defence from all the literal violence I experience. You see it's hard being me. I'm a victim really. I'd love to be kind and gentle but those nasty women who disagree with me made me tell them to fuck off.'

See also when abusive men in domestically violent relationships say 'i love you and I don't want to hurt you but sometimes you make me so angry...'

MoseShrute Sun 07-Oct-18 14:25:22

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AnyFucker Sun 07-Oct-18 14:26:40

I just snorted @ middle class adolescents with blue hair

Nothing against blue hair smile

I expect any "initiatives" aimed at the Poor Folk will include promoting sex work as an employment opportunity and sanctioning benefits if they refuse

AnyFucker Sun 07-Oct-18 14:29:00

I am deleted too. Oh well. Another day, another truth denied.

YetAnotherSpartacus Sun 07-Oct-18 14:30:22

The womyn hatred is palpable. Disgusting.

ToeToToe Sun 07-Oct-18 14:30:24

That's the direction we seem to be going, AF.

It saddens me to see the great Women's Liberation movement re-wound with such speed like this, and with such endorsement from young women.

ToeToToe Sun 07-Oct-18 14:33:09

*young women like Molly etc - who actively campaigns for sex work as part of "working class struggle". I'm not referring to Madigan as a young woman, you understand.

AngryAttackKittens Sun 07-Oct-18 14:35:28

What if I'm working class and I want to empower myself in ways to don't involve sucking a stranger's cock, Molly? What then?

Sarahjconnor Sun 07-Oct-18 14:39:12

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NameChangedAgain18 Sun 07-Oct-18 14:45:50

As we are having problems with the rules of gendering people, please could @MNHQ let us know they would like us to gender Nasascha Kennedy / Mark Hellen of Goldsmiths University, and whether we should assume this is two people or one? I am confused as they seem to have one body but two identities, and I wouldn’t want to fall foul of any rules.

IStandWithPosie Sun 07-Oct-18 14:46:53

Ok so we aren’t allowed to say that Lily is a [you know what goes here]. Are we allowed to replace any references to Lily being a woman with [redacted]? Because it would be untrue to say they are the W word, so we can redact it, yes?

Charley50 Sun 07-Oct-18 14:47:20

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LinoleumBlownapart Sun 07-Oct-18 14:49:02

Identifying and separating a group from the collective, then labeling them as the enemy for others to rally and unify against.......that has never ended well, but on the plus side, sooner or later people start seeing the real motives of the politicians that behave like this.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale Sun 07-Oct-18 14:50:11

Put it away, Lily. We've seen it before and it's not impressive.

Floisme Sun 07-Oct-18 14:50:24

I can see that this thread is being watched and have no intention of being goaded by Lily Madigan into picking up a deletion.

What I will say is that I can be pretty foul mouthed at times but, if I ever made a comment like that on official social media, I would be out before my feet touched the floor. And I think I would have realised that even at 20.

Labour party, sort it out.

AngryAttackKittens Sun 07-Oct-18 14:52:06

Indeed. I'm a sweary bastard, but not when representing an employer, because that's unprofessional.

happydappy2 Sun 07-Oct-18 14:52:52

I think Lilly’s days in politics are numbered, as pp said they will most likely blame transphobic hatred as the reason for stepping down, rather than acknowledging it was their own bad behaviour that people found offensive.

Bolloxio Sun 07-Oct-18 14:54:22

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WrongSideOfHistory Sun 07-Oct-18 15:00:54

@VickyEadie I think it was Angela Raynor who said she was keeping her seat warm for LM.

When I resigned from the Labour Party I cited the self-Id issue and the disgrace that was LM and the poisonous anti-women tweets that were giving the LP a bad name.

As predicted, no one gave a shiny shit.

littlbrowndog Sun 07-Oct-18 15:01:04

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MaisyPops Sun 07-Oct-18 15:06:35

I can see that this thread is being watched and have no intention of being goaded by Lily Madigan into picking up a deletion
Of course it's being watched.

It's a classic strategy:
1. Post something goady and offensive (that would see most people sacked from their jobs)
2. Wait for people to understandably challenge the offensive and abusive comments
3. Hope a couple of people over step the mark
4. Screen grab as evidence of why the instigator is actually the victim

Behaviour like that has no place in politics. And actually having seen some of the genuinely transphobic replies to some of LM's comments, I think LM is doing a massive disservice to genuine campaigns for trans issues as I fear her actions will lead members of the public into seeing her type of activism as synonymous with genuine pushes to increase support for trans people (when that's far from the truth).

AdultHumanFemaleWoman Sun 07-Oct-18 15:41:56

I doubt I will ever vote Labour again. This person, Jeremy and Ed Miliband hate women.

NopeNi Sun 07-Oct-18 15:42:11

Yes and if you're a popular name, all the more reporting will go on. They want to destroy this place.

mimivanne Sun 07-Oct-18 15:48:46

Lang
I resigned from the LP when I heard about L Madigan becoming Womens Officer.
I was told by our local branch that it would take six months to get my name 'off the books'
And it did

MoseShrute Sun 07-Oct-18 16:10:00

Oh ffs! I have been deleted again! All l said this time was that l dont believe someone with a penis is a woman. What the fuck is wrong with you MNHQ?

MoseShrute Sun 07-Oct-18 16:11:51

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Budgieinaberet Sun 07-Oct-18 16:13:01

Probably Mose

littlbrowndog Sun 07-Oct-18 16:13:02

Heresy Mose 😂😂😂😂😂
I got a delete as well 💪🤦‍♀️

littlbrowndog Sun 07-Oct-18 16:13:57

I was talking about the enpoerment of sex work

littlbrowndog Sun 07-Oct-18 16:14:32

Enpowerment

LangCleg Sun 07-Oct-18 16:20:17

mimivanne - infuriating, isn't it? The Labour Party is not hugely familiar with consent. I've emailed everyone, multiple times. I've unsubscribed from email lists, multiple times. I have no wish to learn anything about what it is doing but it won't stop telling me.

HerFemaleWoman Sun 07-Oct-18 16:20:54

whos modding the boards today? Stonewall

Ereshkigal Sun 07-Oct-18 16:22:07

Fermat

Fun new game: TERF translator
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3242186-Fun-new-game-TERF-translator

DeRigueurMortis Sun 07-Oct-18 16:22:54

Looks like LM has deleted that tweet.

HerFemaleWoman Sun 07-Oct-18 16:23:24

Anyway that tweet being deleted I was going to email my MP he hates everyone, including likes of me I see how he votes in parliament but fair dues he always gets some minion to reply back

SirVixofVixHall Sun 07-Oct-18 16:26:12

Are we not allowed to be truthful about sex at all? On a website for women? It has become ridiculous, this censoring of truth.
I can’t see LMs tweets as I am blocked. Probably a good thing for my blood pressure. LM has single handed lyrics removed more women from The Labour Party than anyone else I imagine. Would be amusingly ironic, being women’s officer and all, if it wasn’t so tragic.
Labour have lost my vote.

SirVixofVixHall Sun 07-Oct-18 16:27:25

Who is moderating today ? A fifteen year old friend of that women who scarpered with all our pretty data ?

JoanSummers Sun 07-Oct-18 16:28:31

A man is an adult human who has a penis, even if that penis has gone through a process of alteration.

Men who are hateful towards women are misogynists.

Lily Madigan is a male human who is hateful towards women. It is a disgrace that women are being censored from stating these obvious and unarguable facts out.

NoseringGirl Sun 07-Oct-18 16:41:50

I wonder how long this thread will last? I've seen a fair few LM thread disappear!

OVAgroundWOMBlingfree Sun 07-Oct-18 16:42:51

www.gold.ac.uk/governance/generalregulations/studentconduct/

11.1 Students’ conduct shall not (1) cause actual or potential distress or harm to others; (2) cause actual or potential damage to the property or reputation of the College or others;

Potential distress or harm to others.

Damage the reputation of the college.
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I’m pretty sure we have had threads with people not wanting their children to go to said establishment because of this individual.

FairTradeFairPlay Sun 07-Oct-18 16:44:25

@SirVixofVixHall

m.youtube.com/watch?v=pngcPpXVrtI

nauticant Sun 07-Oct-18 16:47:30

You are a real optimist if you think Goldsmiths would sanction LM. Still, the world does need optimists.

Ereshkigal Sun 07-Oct-18 16:48:24

Never gets old.

SophieLMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 07-Oct-18 16:51:56

Hi all,

We're trying really hard to continue hosting this discussion but in order to do so, we do need to moderate to our guidelines

If the thread becomes a pile on, we will need to look at deleting it.

We'd just like to ask for civility towards moderators, too, please - we really are doing our best.

HamiltonCork Sun 07-Oct-18 16:52:47

Does Madigando anything for women (the cunty types)? I see a lot of tweets about transwomen but nothing else?

IStandWithPosie Sun 07-Oct-18 16:53:42

Sophie are we really not allowed to state biological fact? Is that just about Lily or does that apply to everyone?

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