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Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii

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MipMipMip Fri 03-Aug-18 13:54:29

There doesnt seem to be another part 3 coming up si here goes.

Popchyk Thu 28-Feb-19 22:25:40

new thread

Katvonfelttipeyebrows Thu 28-Feb-19 22:14:06

That is interesting.
It is fascinating watching the NUS sitting on this and not acting. Imagine if it was anyone else!

Popchyk Thu 28-Feb-19 22:01:16

Just come across this interesting read.

www.sarahmcculloch.com/statement-jess-bradley/

Written by Jess Bradley's estranged wife.

Provides a lot of background and confirms that Action for Trans Health received a report of sexual assault and a further six reports of sexual misconduct of Jess Bradley.

R0wantrees Wed 30-Jan-19 17:49:46

Edward Lord (of City of London, masons, partner of Meg-John Barker etc etc) is an honorary life member of the NUS...! Wonder what influence he still has over them... hmm

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3459026-Edward-Lord-asking-the-Sunday-Times-to-censor-Andrew-Gilligan

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3352843-First-there-was-Jess-Bradley-then-the-Challenors-now-Edward-Lord

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3380245-The-City-of-London-consultation-didn-t-go-quite-as-they-hoped

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3323475-Surprise-The-Masons-now-welcome-Transwomen-but-not-women

nauticant Wed 30-Jan-19 17:41:52

Edward Lord (of City of London, masons, partner of Meg-John Barker etc etc) is an honorary life member of the NUS...! Wonder what influence he still has over them... hmm

@nus*uk
@nus_trans

Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

1hello2hello Wed 30-Jan-19 17:38:58

Link between Edward Lord & NUS - branch of the Masons?
"Edward Lord OBE JP is a Junior Grand Deacon of the United Grand Lodge of England and Chairman of its Universities Scheme, which seeks to provide students with the opportunity to explore and enjoy Freemasonry."

R0wantrees Wed 30-Jan-19 17:35:15

(and still no word from NUS on their investigation into JB hmm )

Words about 'Mumsnet' from an NUS trans officer

twitter.com/ladleye/status/1086967538553180160

OlennasWimple Wed 30-Jan-19 17:31:09

Oh!! Calling @R0wantrees - here's a link to savour...

twitter.com/edwardlord/status/1088849660821807115

Edward Lord (of City of London, masons, partner of Meg-John Barker etc etc) is an honorary life member of the NUS...! Wonder what influence he still has over them... hmm

(All these lines lead to each other and big tangled mess, don't they?)

OlennasWimple Wed 30-Jan-19 17:27:11

Is someone going to start a new thread? This one's almost full (and still no word from NUS on their investigation into JB hmm )

R0wantrees Wed 30-Jan-19 17:15:52

(from link above)

There's history of Jess Bradley campaigning and attempting to protest against Shakira Martin.

I'm sure Jess Bradley had the full support of friends and fellow transgender NUS officers.

Katvonfelttipeyebrows Wed 30-Jan-19 17:14:18

Thanks hello

1hello2hello Wed 30-Jan-19 16:00:14

And they're up & running:
twitter.com/saveNUStrans/status/1090622741819076608

R0wantrees Wed 30-Jan-19 15:48:10

I assumed gender there. Sorry.

I don't have a gender. I am a woman (adult human female) smile

Female pronouns are appropriate.

& thank you for kind words

WTFIsAGleepglorp Wed 30-Jan-19 14:55:45

GirlDownUnder Seconded.

R0wantrees, you are a shero.

I assumed gender there. Sorry. blush

2rebecca Wed 30-Jan-19 14:52:29

Either it's a boring conference, they have nothing to say because they are happy with the toilets or they've been told not to tweet

GirlDownUnder Wed 30-Jan-19 14:37:09

R0wantrees I know you say you do all you do because, but your links and comments really help me when I’m trying to follow / join the dots, and most importantly when I’m talking to a rl ‘newbie’.

Thanks for helping me peak a few more every day brew

1hello2hello Wed 30-Jan-19 12:18:45

NUS Trans conference is today & tomorrow.

R0wantrees Tue 29-Jan-19 16:41:31

Venice Allen
October 2018 important discussion about platforming of Jess Bradley by young labour just before the allegations about JB flashing her erect penis were made public:

'Question about Jess Bradley'
"Venice asks for clarification on Jess Bradley at AWL meeting on trans rights"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=85_k1xAUyng

R0wantrees Tue 29-Jan-19 14:42:13

Rose of Dawn collation of her videos regarding Jess Bradley:

www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLChYytKhbbRoobsW3K9JVtEZXH0qxLErl

Not sure what's happened at the NUS Trans Conference.
I thought it was last week in January.

R0wantrees Sat 26-Jan-19 00:35:25

Varsity article,
'NUS formally proposes to defund its Trans Campaign
“Defunding the NUS Trans Campaign forces volunteers to stand alone against the wave of transphobia in the public in the public sphere”, wrote the NUS LGBT+ Campaign'
(extract)
'The National Union of Students (NUS) has formally announced a proposal to defund its Trans Officer and Committee for at least the 2019-20 period, prompting criticism from the NUS LGBT+ Campaign, among other student activists

This proposal, which was formally confirmed on 16th January, comes alongside a series of cuts aiming to limit the number of full-time officers to 12 and plug the NUS’ large deficit. The proposal letter was co-signed by the Chair of the Board, NUS President Shakira Martin, and NUS CEO, Peter Robinson.

However, the proposal cannot come into force until after it is voted on at the upcoming NUS National Conference, set to take place in April.

The NUS Trans campaign is an autonomous part of the NUS. According to the campaign’s web page, their role “to represent trans students and fight for their rights”. The leadership and policy of the campaign are decided during an annual Trans Students’ Conference, which takes place every summer.

In December, the NUS’ initial consideration of proposals to scrap liberation officer roles, representing BME, LGBT+, trans, disabled, and women students, received condemnation from student activists. CUSU President Evie Aspinall remarked that removing liberation officers would be “very dangerous, in the sense it will curtail the NUS’ ability to do its core functions and protect students.”

Now, in response to the formal proposal to defund the NUS Trans Committee and Officer, the NUS LGBT+ campaign has issued a statement expressing significant concerns. In this statement, issued on the 21st of January, the campaign noted a continued influx of trans students in need of support, specifically in the area of healthcare. They described the trans student population as “probably the fastest growing in the NUS’ individual membership” and noted that these students “have specific welfare and campaigning needs”. (continues)

“Defunding the NUS Trans Campaign forces volunteers to stand alone against the wave of transphobia in the public in the public sphere”, the LGBT+ Campaign wrote, noting that the work carried out by the organisation is “highly specialised and requires public policy support which is only available in large NGOs like NUS.”

The NUS LGBT+ campaign also expressed concerns about being solely responsible for trans rights and support once the trans campaign is defunded.

Writing in the Gay Star News, NUS LGBT+ Office Rob Noon said, "This decision is a political one and thus warrants a political response”. Noon also claimed that the decision was made without consultation with either of the current NUS LGBT+ officers, who are both trans." (continues)
www.varsity.co.uk/news/16849

NUS Trans committee have demonstrated that they do not understand Safeguarding or the duty of care to vulnerable students.
There is a systemic failure.

AspieAndProud Mon 21-Jan-19 21:18:46

I wonder if there has been some sort of pay-out to the outgoing Trans NUS officer in the redundant post?

Tradition demands they present her with an engraved cock for her mantelpiece.

R0wantrees Mon 21-Jan-19 20:55:49

Rose of Dawn
'The Bradpocalypse: NUS Trans Is No More!'

www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_6mxxD62WM&feature=youtu.be

theOtherPamAyres Mon 21-Jan-19 17:27:38

I wonder if there has been some sort of pay-out to the outgoing Trans NUS officer in the redundant post?

R0wantrees Mon 21-Jan-19 14:32:51

see also the role and influence behind the scenes of TRA James Morton in Scotland:

Herald article last week by Shona Craven,
'Trans rights backlash: the Scottish-Canadian connection'

(extract)
"Official attitudes in Scotland have changed over time, due in large part to the efforts over the past decade of James Morton of the Scottish Trans Alliance. Writing about the challenges of securing and retaining funding for a trans-specific equality project, Morton has noted that the SNP, which inherited his pilot project from the previous coalition government in 2007, “were keen for the rest of Europe to recognise Scotland as a progressive, innovative country”. He also explains the strategic thinking behind working with the Scottish Prison Service to introduce a gender identity policy – if prisons could be persuaded to adopt a policy based on self-declaration in “very challenging circumstances”, other public services would likely follow.

Those challenging circumstances have been in the spotlight since it emerged that Karen White, a male rapist who identifies as a woman but is still legally male, had sexually assaulted female inmates after being remanded in a women's prison in England. White was described as an “alleged transgender female” by a prosecutor who suggested there was little evidence of any meaningful transition, but last week it was reported that the serial sex offender – who is serving a life sentence – is seeking cash from friends to fund gender reassignment surgery, in the belief this will guarantee a transfer back to the female estate.

Trans activists argue that such cases are exceptions and that those who oppose prison policies based on self-ID are unfairly seeking to portray all transgender people as sexual predators. Women's rights groups argue that vulnerable women in prison, many of whom have experienced physical and sexual violence, have the right to be housed separately from males." (continues)

www.heraldscotland.com/news/17364975.trans-rights-backlash-the-scottish-canadian-connection/

scottish-women.com/2019/01/11/prison-information-sheet/

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3483140-The-Scottish-Government-and-female-erasure

James Morton comment at the TRA conference 'We're Still Here' organised by Jane Fae:

OP TheHarpySings wrote:
(extract)
"6) GETTING THE GRA WE WANT

This was a workshop with 3 experts sitting with groups and talking through activism. They were:

Helen Belcher (Lib Dems, Trans Media Watch)
James Morton (Scottish Transgender Alliance)
Alex Moore (GenderJam). Moore is from N Ireland.

James Morton gave some insight into tactics the TRAs will probably start using in England and Wales as they were successful in Scotland.

He said the TRAs need to build allies in mainstream women and children’s organisations so it looks like they care about them.

He also said what worked in Scotland's was a “constructive, friendly, innocent” tone when debating or in dialogue with the GC side. To be mindful about who is watching- essentially like what we do with the lurkers on the FWR board. To make the TRAs look like the reasonable side.

James also said that in dialect with elected officials, to clarify that the trans side aren’t silencing anyone but want to clarify the misconceptions being bandied around by GC feminists.

The Scottish GRA changes will probably be put forward in the 2019-2020 parliamentary year.

Belcher has been meeting with MPs and members of the House of Lords. Most of them don’t really understand the GRA and don’t have much time to think about it thanks to the Brexit FUBAR. “Education” of law makers is needed and that’s what Belcher is doing.

Apparently the TRAs lack the infrastructure they had in the 1990s and early 2000s so they need to think carefully and coordinate.

Belcher said to re-iterate to MPs that the EA2010 is not being affected and no one is losing any rights (wtf).

Apparently in terms of political support, the Tories are split about 50/50, Labour, Lib Dem's and SNP are all onside. The Greens were NOT mentioned.

The big fear on the TRA side is that this Government won’t survive long enough to get this through- again because Brexit.

According to Alex Moore, Arlene Foster of the DUP went to a Pink News event and didn’t seem to know much about this. In NI no one really cares about the trans issues because everyone is focused on same sex marriage and abortion.

Alex then moaned about the Together for Yes campaign’s transmisogyny and that the campaign completely erased the experiences of trans and NB people who need abortions. Alex would like a legal change of gender to be free of charge and as easy as changing your name.

Helen Belcher was annoyed at GC feminists using “emotive arguments” regards rape.

HB said that the pile ons pro self-ID MPs get from the GC side if they say something supportive of the trans side are not helping the GC cause. Maria Miller told Belcher that MPs got loads of abuse in the run up to marriage equality and that abusive messages, tweets from GC feminists will only harden MPs against the GC side.

HB also said something snide about “mouthy” female Labour MPs who speak before thinking on Twitter- especially on a Friday or Saturday night after they’ve had a few drinks.

Apparently the TRAs have civil service support and that the Stonewall report and Gov survey are strong bits of evidence they have which is helping them win arguments.

They are saying there is no risk to reforming the GRA and are asking MPs “what is the risk?”

In the group I was in they also talked about how changing your gender multiple times should be allowed and shouldn’t be seen as “bad intentions”.

James Morton talked about how they can get rid of “gender” markers on things like IT systems and places where it isn’t relevant- apparently GDPR might be able to help them here.

JM’s campaigning tips were to gain trust in the local community- and to approach moderate feminists, “correct misconceptions and forgive any ignorance they may have displayed”. They want to gain trust and make themselves likeable.

Apparently small acts like helping to campaign about period poverty or retweeting the local branch of Women’s Aid will make a difference and result in some reciprocation. They want to make it look like they care about Women's issues so they don’t appear threatening" (continues)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398737-We-re-Still-Here-Conference-8th-September-A-report-from-the-inside

R0wantrees Mon 21-Jan-19 14:19:03

The secrecy with which NUS has chosen to conduct the process of deciding which officer position is worthy of funding suggests that this is a political rather than a financial choice. We believe it was wrong for the UK Board to make this decision, as the Trustee Board should not be setting the political direction of the organisation. There is simply nothing democratic or liberatory about this decision happening without a single conversation with a trans student or representative, especially as the VP Union Development is a member of the Turnaround Board. We believe that trans students deserve to know how and why this decision was made.

This makes an important point though not neccessarily understoodby the NUS TRAs.

Trans rights activists have for a long time lobbied behind the scenes, influencing policies that especially affect the Safeguarding of children and Women's rights.

2013 Guardian Interview aboutformation andinfluence of Press For Change:

extract re GRA
"Much of their campaigning remained on the quiet. The passage of the 2004 law to give trans people legal status was "remarkable," says [Christine] Burns, because "the government was able to pass an entire act in parliament without anyone throwing a fit in the press". In popular culture, the activists became more forthcoming in their attempts to increase popular understanding of trans issues." (continues)
www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jan/22/voices-from-trans-community-prejudice

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3241837-Why-has-the-trans-lobby-been-so-successful

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3374926-What-influence-does-TELI-have-on-government-public-services-and-charities-policies-Co-founders-include-Jess-Bradley-Tara-Hewitt-and-Michelle-Hudson

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3391330-Prof-Kathleen-Stock-WPUK-speech-at-House-of-Lords-Important-disection-of-the-key-issues-for-MPs-policy-makers-etc-with-ref-to-The-Trans-Equality-Report

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2993425-Maria-Miller-interviewed-by-Janice-Turner-full-text

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3396859-Weve-been-lied-to-about-Single-SEX-wards-since-2010

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

AngryAttackKittenswrote:
"I'm going to point every "but the nice, harmless old school transsexuals whose movement has been unfairly appropriated by the nasty transgender people" person to this thread from now on.

All the same elements we're seeing now were there in that old BBC roundtable from the 70s with the 4 transwomen, the politician, and the doctor. None of this is new."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3463920-Lets-go-back-to-2007

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