It's a sad day when pie has power on mn

[Floorplan]

Why not just engage @mnhq

[CoteDAzur]

Who?

[Jozxyqk]

Assume Paedophile Information Exchange. What did I miss?

[BoreOfWhabylon]

I think OP might mean Paedophile Information Exchange Cote

What is this thread about Floorplan?

[NewbieSpartacus]

This maybe:

Offred

This is probably going to be my last post on MN. I have been deleted twice on another thread for the same thing as Lang (despite clearly stating I was not conflating paedophiles and TRAs but highlighting how paedophiles are exploiting trans rights by posting on SM in support of trans rights in order to promote ‘paedosexuality’).

We are not allowed to mention that paeodphiles are actively exploiting this ideology in order to normalise paedophilia. This is a bridge too far for me for a parenting website.

My personal feeling is that if they are going so far as to delete any mention of how paedophiles have planned to, and are now carrying through that plan to, exploit this then ultimately what HQ are doing is protecting paedophiles under the guise of ‘dealing with transphobia’ based on reports from unknown people on the internet.

I’ll not be party to that, I wasn’t going to come back at all but I have been mulling over whether people should know...

[thebewilderness]

Feminists on the Feminist board of a parenting website are not allowed to talk about male predators grooming children online.
You would think it would be one of the most common problems women discuss here since is is such a widespread problem but any attempt to do so is deleted as a violation of talk guidelines.

[Monstamio]

Has Offred been banned?

[EmpressWeaponisedClitoris]

God that's ironic...

[Monstamio]

Well indeed. I've just read the thread in question. Chilling.

[Maryzsnewaccount]

This will be deleted as a TAAT, won't it?

Which is appalling - it deserves it's own thread and everyone should know about it.

We are losing so many good posters .

[Maryzsnewaccount]

What was the original thread, by the way? I've seen the "protecting women and girls" one, but there must be another I've missed.

[CoteDAzur]

"I think OP might mean Paedophile Information Exchange Cote "

How the fuck am I supposed to know that?

Here, have a yourself.

[BoreOfWhabylon]

Cote the wasn't aimed at you!

I thought this was a troll thread when I read it, as it was so odd, but see now that it's something else entirely.

[Rufustheyawningreindeer]

Oh for goodness sake

It must be quite obvious that nefarious groups will piggy back on to perfectly 'innocent' groups

It happens all the time

[CoteDAzur]

Sorry Bore, I didn't get that. It was a bit too early in the morning for me

[BeyondRadicalisationPortal]

You'd think it was obvious from the way PIE have historically already done it with homosexuality!!

(i also missed the thread though)

[Rufustheyawningreindeer]

Well exactly beyond

[SophieLMumsnet]

Hi all,

We're not saying you can't talk about PIE or paedophiles at all, so by all means start an individual thread about it - but do avoid conflation of TRA and PIE tactics, which we've previously mentioned on this thread.

If anyone would like to query one of their post deletions, then by all means mail in and we're always happy to discuss it.

[BoreOfWhabylon]

It's all good cote

[ShirleyPhallus]

It says at the top that MNHQ have commented on this thread but there is no comment, and the clicking on the link doesn’t go anywhere?

[ShirleyPhallus]

Ohhhh.... cross post

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

but do avoid conflation of TRA and PIE tactics, which we've previously mentioned on this thread

But the tactics are noticeably similar even if the end goal is different

[ToeToToe]

I very, very nearly left MN for good because of that thread SophieMN has linked to.

I was on there under a different Username - and the deletions sickened me.

This is a parenting website FFS. If we can't name the tactics PIE are using in order to normalise and legalise child sexual abuse (yes, they want the age of consent lowered or gone) - then MN cannot call itself a parent support site, IMO.

[R0wantrees]

Important current thread focussed on Safeguarding and systemic failings /failures with regards child protection and protection of vulnerable adults:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3301266-Safeguarding-girls-and-protecting-women-post-Jimmy-Saville-metoo

[VickyEadie]

Hey, MNHQ - "tactics" used by entirely different, separate groups with entirely different ethics, aims and objectives - can be identical "tactics".

Surely you can see that?