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Metro Article - Being able to discuss trans

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Writersblock2 Mon 19-Mar-18 23:29:57

Interesting article. Also slightly touches on #ManFriday

AreYouTerfEnough Mon 19-Mar-18 23:32:34

Mner Mon 19-Mar-18 23:33:04

Great article

rowdywoman1 Mon 19-Mar-18 23:37:22

A thoughtful article and good to see it in a mainstream publication.
It's been a good week for reminding people that silencing women is not a good democratic look.

Mouthtrousersafrocknowandthen Mon 19-Mar-18 23:42:24

Excellent, its been media coverage everyday. Bloody amazing.

Hulo Mon 19-Mar-18 23:45:36

Not just that, it's been coverage in new outlets. Don't think there's been anything in either the Metro or the Evening Standard before

BlackeyedSusan Tue 20-Mar-18 00:01:48


NoSquirrels Tue 20-Mar-18 00:05:47

I really like this article. I think it will resonate with the younger generation.

Destinysdaughter Tue 20-Mar-18 00:50:53

I think this is the best article I've read yet. Well done that journalist!

Still not seen anything in the Guardian yet...hmm

Destinysdaughter Tue 20-Mar-18 00:53:34

For those doubters who didn't think a couple of women getting their boobs out at a swimming pool would achieve anything, it's had more media coverage than anything else and has finally hit the mainstream. And it's actually discussed the issues which is what we wanted!

CircleSquareCircleSquare Tue 20-Mar-18 01:10:48

Excellent article.
The comments though less so in places. One woman is over there using the “if you’re assaulted in the loo it’s against the law, the criminal justice system will deal with rapist”.
Yes that system which is always so fair to rape victims! Thanks.
Also now lovely that we should accept the possibility of rape because yay police exist.

Shut up about widening the scope for you being sexually assaulted because 1. it upsets my feels 2. if you’re raped you can report it, what’s the problem?

LittleLebowski Tue 20-Mar-18 06:18:17

I agree, great article. Definitely an 'it's ok to be critical of self-ID" for Millennials! Which I haven't seen elsewhere either.
Also very good link underneath about night sweats and women!! I've been awake at 3am for the past 2 nights feeling like a tropical rainforest so it was very helpful. I may go and get my non-binary perimenopausal hormones checked!

IndominusRex Tue 20-Mar-18 06:27:16

I just came on to post this, great article!

MrsPnut Tue 20-Mar-18 06:33:33

I think it’s a great article and I liked that in the comments there are a number of mentions of the % of TIM’s that don’t have surgery, are hetero and AGP.
This is the bit that I think peaks most people.

MissBeehiving Tue 20-Mar-18 06:39:02

Really thoughtful comments and arguments underneath the article too.

BigChocFrenzy Tue 20-Mar-18 06:41:24

Very positive way to make people think
(although it seems it takes bare boobs to get the media interested)

However, I also read about supposedly tough Millwall FC, who cancelled a womens' group booking after being "spooked" by a TRA campaign.
The event was to protest against allowing self-ID

Meanwhile, a woman who criticised a transgender charity on Twitter has been questioned under caution by police and told *she will be arrested if she tries to leave the country*

Kellie-Jay Keen- Minshull accused the group Mermaids of “suppressing free speech”

She had accused Mermaids, which calls for children to be allowed irreversible sex-change treatment the NHS currently prohibits, of “prey[ing]” on gay teenagers and of “mass child abuse”

wherethewildthingis Tue 20-Mar-18 06:41:50

I've lurked on here a long time and occasionally posted. You amazing women opened my eyes on this issue and I am endlessly impressed with how you have bought this to the mainstream media. Hats off to all of you (and tops off to MANFRIDAY)

smurfandTERF Tue 20-Mar-18 06:49:19

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KathyBeale Tue 20-Mar-18 06:53:41

Brilliant. The comments are great too.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain Tue 20-Mar-18 08:26:21

It's beautifully clear isn't it. The debate has begun.

BossWitch Tue 20-Mar-18 08:36:05

The comments are very encouraging.

MrFMercury Tue 20-Mar-18 08:44:01

It just reads as perfectly reasonable and straightforward. What a relief!

SangriaInTheSun Tue 20-Mar-18 09:31:33

Great article and overwhelming positive comments with the exception of one who happens to be a transwoman. They helpfully pointed out where we are going wrong though.

MyOwnShed Tue 20-Mar-18 09:41:04

What a good piece!

CuriousaboutSamphire Tue 20-Mar-18 09:51:35

Wait.... was that a corner we just turned?

I bloody hope so!

Last week I was saying I thought this battle was lost, Self ID would be made real and we would have to retrench and defend another line, before we would win the war against such ridiculous, nonsensical, yet dangerous and violent twaddle.

But no. And We have another battle cry, don't we? Throw it all back into 'their court'

Trans women are men, they expand the bandwidth of man!

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