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Another psycho claiming to be a woman to access women's prison

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth Sun 11-Feb-18 21:37:32

UpstartCrow Sun 11-Feb-18 21:41:15

They should offer these poor trans people surgery straight away IMO. It must be awful to live with gender dysphoria when you are trapped in a building full of penii.
Then they can have their very own wing.

GuardianLions Sun 11-Feb-18 21:42:49

Its all about control.

counterpoint Sun 11-Feb-18 21:43:14

Catch 22 madness.

QueenLaBeefah Sun 11-Feb-18 21:46:57

There really needs to be a law that people with penises cannot be housed on the female estate. He's clearly not a transsexual but a total chancer.

And there needs to be separate trans wings for genuine transwomen.

counterpoint Sun 11-Feb-18 21:49:58

"genuine transwomen"


MyBrilliantDisguise Sun 11-Feb-18 21:50:57

Last year it was revealed murderer Eastwood, from England, terrified a security guard so much that she quit her job.

The 22-year-old said she resigned following a chilling encounter with Eastwood who told her seemingly impossible-to-know facts about her private life while escorting him to hospital in Wishaw, Lanarkshire.

Essex-born Eastwood told the guard her home address, model of car she drove and even what her dad did for a living.

This made my blood run cold.

MyBrilliantDisguise Sun 11-Feb-18 21:52:07

The article questioned whether male or female guards should do the searches - I think men like this would get a kick out of a woman searching them. Just saying you're not called Sophie doesn't mean you can insist on a woman touching you.

Cocolepew Sun 11-Feb-18 21:54:01

If they have a penis of course female guards shouldn't be searching them ffs.
All hes done is change his name.

Cocolepew Sun 11-Feb-18 21:54:29


Riverside2 Sun 11-Feb-18 21:58:17

so Eastwood essentially had a visitor find out all that stuff about a guard?

I can't believe there's any debate around this.

UpstartCrow Sun 11-Feb-18 22:01:53

I'm curious why Mr Morton got a bigger piece than the prison officers.

ChangeNamesMoreOftenThanSocks Sun 11-Feb-18 22:06:59

NCer here. I'm a female police officer and as a young PC we had a 'transwoman' (6'3"+, brick shithouse built, penis owning man) insist that they were a female when they were taken into custody. As this was frequent, and often on suspicion of drug poasession (justified!) it necessitated a strip search which I ended up doing. He spent the whole time intimidating and abusing me and my colleague, calling us frigid lesbians etc, and making it entirely clear they were physically male and much bigger and stronger than me. It was disgusting so I reached peak trans about 10 years ago and I feel desperately sorry for female prison officers if these scum are allowed their own way.

SweetGrapes Sun 11-Feb-18 22:07:21

What's the problem? Men would never ever do this on purpose.

SweetGrapes Sun 11-Feb-18 22:10:16

That was sarcastic btw. My head hurts from all this banging on brick walls.

ChangeNames I always think the only solution to this is a 6'5" police woman called Lucy needs to rock up for the search. Lucy could be genderfluid.

StillPissedOff Sun 11-Feb-18 22:10:24

Fucking hell - the OP and also ChangeNames just above.

Just fucking speechless.

cista Sun 11-Feb-18 22:11:07

Maybe some of he make guards should identify as females when these chancers need to be searched? wink

StickStickStickStick Sun 11-Feb-18 22:12:17

If they insist on a female prison officer surely a trans woman would be the perfect female to do the job?

Change names - that sounds horriblesad

StickStickStickStick Sun 11-Feb-18 22:12:53

Ah looks like we all think the same! Crossposts.

theaveragewife Sun 11-Feb-18 22:13:16

In Scotland non binary prisons are being planned - unfortunately that isn’t good enough as TRAs are still protesting and want to be housed with women.

Theglobe Sun 11-Feb-18 22:40:59

Changenames, in the prison service (I can only speak for England and Wales) a male officer will search the genitalia of a trans woman and a female officer the top half. If the prisoner tries to intimidate the officers, then they are restrained and the strip search done under restraint.

LangCleg Sun 11-Feb-18 22:49:25

It's like living in a world where everyone in authority has completely lost their minds.

I've gone so far beyond peak trans I couldn't even tell you where I am.

Datun Sun 11-Feb-18 23:04:57

I completely agree with posters who say let a male prison guard identify as female for the duration.

a male officer will search the genitalia of a trans woman and a female officer the top half.

Apart from this being completely insane, let that particular guard identify as non-binary.

In fact all the prison guards could identify as non-binary.

Job done.

They are neither male nor female, so no one can object.

No name change necessary, no pronoun change necessary.


StillPissedOff Sun 11-Feb-18 23:37:54

Yes, Datun - that is the only logical solution in this utterly illogical situation.

Blimey, though.

Riverside2 Sun 11-Feb-18 23:44:16

I had a friend who retired from the prison service because her mental health was shot to shit.

This will make prison staff even more vulnerable.

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