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Was Greer Right When She Said Men Hate Women?

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LastGirlOnTheLeft Fri 09-Feb-18 23:02:27

I have just skim read The Female Eunuch and like everyone else, the stand out line to me was that men hate us but we aren't aware of the extent, and neither are they!!

Do you think this is true?? My DH, my late father and my brother, all immensely like/d and love/d the women in their lives. I hate to think it is true, but if it is, I want to know! I want to know my enemy.

LastGirlOnTheLeft Fri 09-Feb-18 23:03:45

Flip, that should say women!! Can someone please report the title???

TellsEveryoneRealFacts Fri 09-Feb-18 23:04:02

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AnotherCassandra Fri 09-Feb-18 23:07:02

Men and women hate us, we are the scapegoats. Some hate more than others, many are unaware.

Gileswithachainsaw Fri 09-Feb-18 23:10:59

I think it's true.

Plus I also agree that alot of women hate women too.

Society loves sheep

If You aren't a sheep you are hated.

LastGirlOnTheLeft Fri 09-Feb-18 23:14:25

I have never FELT hated....maybe I am in denial! I have surrounded myself with amazing, loyal women and a DH who happily declares he dislikes other men and likes women a whole lot more!! So I find it hard to agree with Greer but something tells me she is right and I am wrong!!

RainOnATinRoof Fri 09-Feb-18 23:16:48

I think it was also Greer who said that "some men hate women all the time, but all men hate women some of the time"

I think this is true.

LastGirlOnTheLeft Fri 09-Feb-18 23:18:37

Men are more twisted than I thought, then!!

WorzelsCornyBrows Fri 09-Feb-18 23:20:53

Yes I believe it's true. As each year passes I become more convinced of its truth.

AdalindSchade Fri 09-Feb-18 23:22:01

It doesn't mean that every single man hates women. It's about how patriarchy and male privilege embed themselves into men (yes all of them) and how this manifests to greater and lesser degrees.
Your male family members surely love you a lot. Mine do to. But they don't view me exactly the way they view each other.

Upsetting content below -

Just today I read two stories that exemplify the extent of how this can manifest in the most toxic and hateful way. A teenager raped a 41 year old woman with a car jack. Extended it and killed her. The second story was another teenager who gave a young woman drugs and raped her as she was unconscious. He joked about not knowing if she was alive or dead when he came in her. He then left her to die because he was too tired to take her to A&E.

I'm sorry those two stories are so disturbing. They are just examples I read today. I don't think it's wise to turn away from news like this. We can't ignore what's happening to women all over the world.

AnotherCassandra Fri 09-Feb-18 23:23:41

Men transfer their stuff onto women, as do enslaved women.

LastGirlOnTheLeft Fri 09-Feb-18 23:25:46

Do they completely lack analytical, cogent, precise and logical thinking skills, or what? For men to HATE one half of the human race, based on nothing whatsoever apart from other thick men telling them to, tells me they are exceptionally half-baked, insensate and unintelligent.

LastGirlOnTheLeft Fri 09-Feb-18 23:31:18

Adalind, I think there is a massive problem with men! I don't know what it is. They have become so aggressive and revolting:

TallulahWaitingInTheRain Fri 09-Feb-18 23:31:45

Once you've victimised or exploited someone (or a class of someones) you have to hate them and blame them and dehumanise them, or how do you live with yourself?

kalinkafoxtrot45 Fri 09-Feb-18 23:40:51

I didn’t use to think it was true, but the more I hear and read of the most hideous violence used against women, all across the world, the more convinced I am that Greer was right on the money. A shame that so many women are complicit in this hatred too.

AnotherCassandra Fri 09-Feb-18 23:48:25

I found helping the enslaved women is the key. I spent several visits with a relative, refusing to engage with them if they recounted examples of how horrible women are. Every time they put women down, I ended the visit. I explained that they hate themselves as much as the woman they complain about. Eventually they stood up to a male relative, after I stood up to him, he put her down her whole life. He knows he is no longer in charge and we are all on a level field.

TerfyMcTerface Fri 09-Feb-18 23:50:18

Adalind, I think there is a massive problem with men! I don't know what it is. They have become so aggressive and revolting

I honestly think that what we’re seeing is a new generation of young men (now in their twenties) whose brains are addled by the 24/7 availability of increasingly violent, misogynistic porn. And by online radicalisation through MRA and incel forums.

thebewilderness Sat 10-Feb-18 03:36:04

Men have many many stories they tell one another down through the generations about women to justify their unjust behavior.
They still teach contempt for women in all the schools, if they still teach Aristotle, and in the churches they teach the 1st rule of misogyny: That women are responsible for what men do.
Men would have to stop killing us for a generation before they could give themselves a break from all their literature justifying killing us.

Sevendown Sat 10-Feb-18 09:58:17

Studies show that we all discriminate against women, don’t they?

RaySwan Sat 10-Feb-18 18:01:30

Good to know you lot think you’re levitating above the rest of humankind in this respect. It’s also an interesting consept that Greer (a female) knows what men think about women. Not just some men but all men.

whoputthecatout Sat 10-Feb-18 18:07:27

Tell us Ray, what you think might be behind male violence towards women - the two women a week murdered by their partner or ex-partner for instance?

RaySwan Sat 10-Feb-18 18:12:39

Would you listen even if I pointed out it’s a minority of men that do that.
What I’m maybe suggesting is that there are violent people, regardless of sex. Some have an advantage of causing more damage than others. If women where physically stronger than men do you think that the violent amongst you would be taking advantage of that?
But to say ALL men hate women, well that’s just pathetic.

RaySwan Sat 10-Feb-18 18:13:37

A small amount of women kill men, are violent towards men, shall I deduct from that that ALL women hate men?

RaySwan Sat 10-Feb-18 18:23:51

Concept* there really should be an edit function.

Lettucepray Sat 10-Feb-18 18:25:25

RaySwan

It's not a minority of men......every scathing comment from a man about how a woman looks, acts is violence. Every man that assaults a woman or stands by without doing anything is violence. It's everywhere, you just don't want to see it.

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