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Once again, misogyny from transwomen...

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TheCatsPaws Fri 09-Feb-18 08:32:59

I’ve just witnessed a horrific exchange online. A young woman, about 19 I’d guess, made a comment about “trans identified males” and said that dressing as a woman doesn’t mean you understand being female. She was completely respectful, polite and insulted no one. Instantly she was attacked for her “terf language” and then, suddenly, her looks. The transwomen called her ugly, said she needed facial feminisation surgery, that her lips looked disgusting, that her vagina didn’t make her look less of a man, etc. And it was a dogpile that went on for hours.

HOW is this any different from men who turn abusive when a woman refuses to sleep with them or validate them, their go to is to call women ugly. It’s literally the same response. Plus, it shows their view of womanhood is based on looks, which is highly misogynistic...

This is really starting to fuck me off now.

StillTryingHard Fri 09-Feb-18 09:50:17

Hearing you & weeping.

Ekphrasis Fri 09-Feb-18 09:55:46

Its male driven pure misogyny. No other explanation.

And stupid as it demonstrates they aren't women.

terryleather Fri 09-Feb-18 10:01:11

This is exactly how the narcissistic misogynistic TIMs behave - anything that is not fawning worship is deliberated read as an attack so they can call in their brethren for a pile-on that will last for eternity and they probably get off on it too.

Interacting with those that have narcissistic rage is a no-win situation and I feel sorry for anyone who has the misfortune to end up in the situation described.

I know this from experience.

NaturalWoman Fri 09-Feb-18 19:27:13

HOW is this any different from men who turn abusive when a woman refuses to sleep with them or validate them, their go to is to call women ugly. It’s literally the same response. Plus, it shows their view of womanhood is based on looks, which is highly misogynistic...

It's not.

Every time they do something like this, they just prove themselves to be men.

ijustwannadance Fri 09-Feb-18 19:35:14

No difference. Men attacking a woman.

Yet they never seem to get deleted or banned from SM accounts for their threats or abuse because they are the victims of hate speechhmm

Valentinesfart Fri 09-Feb-18 19:35:57

It's so very bizarre that they always claim women aren't 'feminine' enough in their looks, while simultaneously claiming that what you look like doesn't matter if you're a 6'5 builder named Kieth.

And, yes, having a vagina does pretty much make you look as ladylike as a human physically can

TheCatsPaws Fri 09-Feb-18 19:38:36

It really irritates me. I see it so often now, and I’ve only recently reached Peak Trans.

Datun Fri 09-Feb-18 19:40:57

This is the separation of concept versus reality.

You can bang on about the concept all you like. The existence of feminising hormones, the internal identity, the inclusivity.

But it in reality, it's men's rights activism.

Don't look like a porn model? You're not a bloody woman.

BrownJenkins Fri 09-Feb-18 19:47:54

The more I read, hear and see, the more I'm convinced these people aren't right in the head.

ijustwannadance Fri 09-Feb-18 19:49:00

But the whole porn model thing just proves it's a sexual thing and nothing to do with them feeling like women.

They are not lesbians, they are straight men with a fetish who hate actual women who don't fit in with their fantasy.

Ollycat Fri 09-Feb-18 19:52:30

I can only say it here - and buried in a thread but I fear for the future and the world my daughter will grow up in. We are being erased ...

Valentinesfart Fri 09-Feb-18 19:53:00

I think many of them have a real disconnect about their actual looks as well. This is the fault of women I am afraid who have told them how beautiful and hot they are on a daily basis.

The same feminists who will rant one minute about the beauty industry and how girls don't need to be pretty all the time will turn and tell a what is clearly a man that he is 'gawjus'. Check their photos on Facebook etc. It's so strange. It's so clear that they are being treated differently than actual females by their friends but they don't care

Datun Fri 09-Feb-18 19:55:42


The tide will turn, I promise. We may lose the battle, but we will win the war.

Taylor22 Fri 09-Feb-18 19:55:51

It's men using male privilege to beat and suppress women into silence and confirmatory.

You know. The same shit that's been happening for centuries.

We got to loud. To demanding and to strong. So they had to find a new way to win.
And bravo to them they've done it. Because from where I'm sitting they are winning.

Taylor22 Fri 09-Feb-18 19:56:38

Cross posted with you @Datun

I really really wish I could believe that. But I'm just so down trodden that I can't see it.

Ragusa Fri 09-Feb-18 19:58:52

Oh yuck. That is horrible.

I think though that we have a very social-media-literate young and dumb and like, radicallll, yeah minority who are dominating the debate and probably are not representative of most trans people, whether that is FtM or MtF.

ijustwannadance Fri 09-Feb-18 20:00:29

I hope you're right Datun.
I've just had my 2nd DD and I fear for their future.

Ragusa Fri 09-Feb-18 20:02:49

I am.not really afraid we are being erased. My non-trans-malegs friends are way more enlightened than this shite.

He'll even my 76 year old gruff Yorkshireman father is more enlightened than this shitey binary nonsense. "Why are you shaving your legs?? Have you seen mine??!"

Ragusa Fri 09-Feb-18 20:03:33

What is a maleg?? Is it a new gender?!?! I mean male.

shakeyourcaboose Fri 09-Feb-18 20:04:42

I used to be in a fb beauty group which i ended up leaving as it became a nightmare of handmaidenry fishing.

shakeyourcaboose Fri 09-Feb-18 20:06:32

Gushing not fishing! But there was LOTS of fishing for the gushing compliments!!

KERALA1 Fri 09-Feb-18 20:17:01

Don't be down hearted. They will never win. Truth will out. Women have fought harder battles than this x

terryleather Fri 09-Feb-18 20:21:46

Shake I bet there wouldn't be so much fawning if they knew what an AGP would be doing with that kind of validation...

Taylor22 Fri 09-Feb-18 20:22:50

But that's it. All we've ever done is fight.
I've been so proud and humbled to watch and read about the history of women.

But then I think they fought so hard and yet here we are. Still fighting. Still seen as 'less than'.

Sorry to be such a downer. But I feel like I can be understood here. Whenever I mention it elsewhere I get told there's no issues anymore and get accused of being a crazy feminist hmm

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