Disgusted by all the transphobia here

[MikePeterson]

A very good friend of mine and a long time poster here has spent most of her day crying because this fresh wave of transphobia in a community she thought she was welcome in has finally broken her spirits. After obtaining her permission, I am posting this because it needs to be said.

She is a woman with a penis and has identified as such since she was old enough to understand the concept of gender. Being female is part of her identity but so is her body, such as it is and untouched by surgery and artificial hormones. She is a beautiful individual and, to my eye, presents a much more feminine image than, ironically, Linda Bellos and several of her fellow bigots.

Arguing that, because of potential past trauma involving males, causing seeing a penis or even an individual likely to be in possession of a penis to be triggering is justification for segregation is as absurd as it is offensive. Would it be acceptable for a woman who was the victim of a violent crime commuted by a particular ethnic minority to demand that all members of that race be segregated in changing rooms and domestic violence shelters? Of course not.

Equally ludicrous is the claim that transgender women somehow had the privilege of living as a man. Cisgendered women are light years ahead of transgender women in terms of privilege and if you wish to continue denying this, you are no better than the most vile male misogynists.

Finally, think about how disrespectful you are being to all women, you are reducing all the wonderful differences between the genders to what someone has between their legs. The same feminist ancestors who fought for your right to vote, to be regarded as more than domestic servants and baby machines would spit on you for your intolerance.

[SmurfOrTerf]

Thank fuck we have a man coming on here to tell us where we are all going wrong

[ALittleBitOfButter]

*privilege

[BakedBeans47]

[BakedBeans47]

She is a woman with a penis

So, a man then.

[TheCatsPaws]

She is a beautiful individual and, to my eye, presents a much more feminine image than, ironically, Linda Bellos and several of her fellow bigots.

So being a woman is about how someone looks? I have no makeup on today, am I a man?

[teenytinypontypine]

You are fucking kidding, right?

[LineySt]

This is a wind up, right?

[BigDeskBob]

Are you telling us off?

[UpstartCrow]

You are homophobic as well as a misogynist.
A penis is not a female sex organ. Your friend is a feminine man. We can see that because we dont have gender dysphoria.

[Zioanna]

What is “the difference between the genders” then?

[Alisvolatpropiis]

Your friend can feel like a woman until the end of time. Will always be biologically a man.

That’s science not bigotry.

[Series28]

Although I do slightly agree with some (not all) of what you are saying OP, i do think you have made a bad move by posting on here, good luck!
The problem with your ethnic minority anology is that men with women are pretending to be women in order to enter womens spaces and assult them whereas a man or women pretending to be asian for example wouldnt make it any easier for them to sexually assault anyone.
It wouldnt be endangering anyone if we could self ID as asian but being able to self ID as a women, had endangered women.

[Series28]

Although I do slightly agree with some (not all) of what you are saying OP, i do think you have made a bad move by posting on here, good luck!
The problem with your ethnic minority anology is that men with women are pretending to be women in order to enter womens spaces and assult them whereas a man or women pretending to be asian for example wouldnt make it any easier for them to sexually assault anyone.
It wouldnt be endangering anyone if we could self ID as asian but being able to self ID as a women, had endangered women.

[AnneLovesGilbert]

Women don’t have have penises.

Jog on Mike.

[MikePeterson]

TheCatsPaws, their overall looks are exactly as much an aspect of their gender as the shape of their genitalia. A penis has no inherent gender, what matters is the mind in the body it is attached to.

[MikePeterson]

TheCatsPaws, their overall looks are exactly as much an aspect of their gender as the shape of their genitalia. A penis has no inherent gender, what matters is the mind in the body it is attached to.

[MikePeterson]

TheCatsPaws, their overall looks are exactly as much an aspect of their gender as the shape of their genitalia. A penis has no inherent gender, what matters is the mind in the body it is attached to.

[MikePeterson]

Sorry for the multiple posts, I'm having trouble with my browser.

[Youllneverweealone]

"Finally, think about how disrespectful you are being to all women, you are reducing all the wonderful differences between the genders to what someone has between their legs. "

What are these differences?

[shakeyourcaboose]

So when my child was in fancy dress today as a dinosaur.... He actually IS a dinosaur???

[Series28]

Sorry I didnt mean to post twice it stayed in my message box so I had assumed it didnt send

[mimibunz]

cisgender? You mean those of us born female, with the chromosomes to prove it?

[FloraFox]

Lots of men find feminism disgusting. You’ll find women here don’t bend themselves out of shape to appease men. You might find that strange.

[TheFallenMadonna]

I think you have oversimplified the concerns of women regarding the implications of prioritising the problematic construct of gender over the reality of biological sex. However, I do think MN must seem a very hostile place for a transwoman, even one who is not one of the vocal activists identified and criticised (robustly, frequently) in threads on here.