Labour party invents new bollocks made-up non-existent definition for woman

[pisacake]

labour.org.uk/members/get-involved/national-youth-elections-2018/

Sixteen uses of the word 'self-defining woman'. Zero uses of 'female', 'biology', or plain 'woman'.

'Woman' is now literally meaningless. A woman can be a bog-standard heterosexual teenage male (Lily Madigan), if he says so.

And obviously with half the places reserved for 'self-defining women' (not 'women', 'self-defining women'), then there's not really any reason why men wouldn't define themselves a women, is there?

If misogynistic shits like Lily Madigan can 'self-define as a woman', well ALL men are women, aren't they?

The whole bloody human race is 'self-defined women'.

Stupid Labour.

[Gingernaut]

That's not my party. Fuck. Them.

I resigned when we invaded Iraq and they've done fuck all to tempt me back....

[AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth]

Fuck them.

I'm done with them

[UpABitLate]

OK I'm cancelling my DD now.

Had enough.

I did have a look at how to stop membership the other day and there is no info on their site (!) but I imagine stopping the payments should do it.

[AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth]

Ha ha Gingernaut, I hadn't even read your reply when I wrote mine.

'Fuck them' is a popular view of Labour now

[LizzieSiddal]

Fucking idiots.

I will not be voting labour whilst this lot are in charge.

[UpABitLate]

Done.

Fuck that.

Not for the 100% but for the 50%. Only interested in men.

Labour women who are more embedded in the party who don't agree with this shit must be baffled as to which way to turn.

[LangCleg]

Labour women who are more embedded in the party who don't agree with this shit must be baffled as to which way to turn.

This is me. Member since forever. Do I stay and fight it? (Already badgering in my CLP, which agrees with me. But we're in a safe Tory seat so LP apparatchiks don't give a shit what we think). Or would it be more effective to resign membership citing my reasons why and persuade others to do the same?

[Whatslovegottodo]

I have about had it with labour over this shit.
Then I remember they are our only hope to stop this incompetent government from destroying our NHS, dismantling benefits for the most vulnerable in society and generally fucking up the whole country!
So for now I, reluctantly, stay. For what is the alternative?

[UpABitLate]

LangCleg I feel for you. I don't know what the answer is.

I am a bit of a shop around politics person and have been labour >> libs >> green >> labour over the last decade or so

I join one then they do something to show that they HATE WOMEN and so I flounce off.

Bottom line is no party is interested in women. And note the WEP has not even made my list...

[LangCleg]

UpABitLate - I've emailed Dawn Butler THREE times now. No reply. I keep telling myself no reply is better than a disingenuous one because she's knows it's all dreadful but really - wishful thinking, amirite?

[UpABitLate]

God only knows. Who knows what anyone thinks any more.

Well apart from labour are no longer interested in progressing women and girls, given that they are happy to see 50% men and 50% "not men" aka gender nonconforming men & mras who fancy a bit of a laugh

[jeaux90]

Aren't they in breach of the equalities act with this crap? Anyway, not voting for them ever again unless they turn this shit off.

[IrkThePurist]

Congratulations Labour, now you're in breach of The Equality Act 2010. Even Justine Greening's office say so.

Labour can fuck off. Women should strike and withdraw all their free labour stuffing envelopes and answering the phone.

[FattyCat]

I'm done too. They can get their bromentum lady dudes to knock on doors in my (tory) borough.

[OlennasWimple]

[Ereshkigal]

Oh what nonsense. Just fuck off.

[AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth]

I understand the staying in the party thing to do some good approach, but the stone headed bastards clearly don't give a shit about women and tbh, until they change that, I think GC women should leave.

I don't want them in power if they are supporting this regressive shit. Think about the amount of harm they could to to women if they had a parliamentary majority? It would be us woman turkeys having voted for Christmas. (What's a female turkey called?)

This is dangerous. And quite frankly, although my heart is in left wing principles and egalitarianism, there is FUCK ALL egalitarian about these policies.

[pisacake]

turkeys are hens and toms I think. the young are jakes & jennies.

except obviously now jake is also jenny.

[theyoniwayisnorthwards]

I'm a labour member and a feminist and I'm totally confused. Can you explain to me what you are angry about please? Have I missed something?

[Ereshkigal]

I think the OP explains it quite well. Start there.

[theyoniwayisnorthwards]

Well of course I read the OP and I don't understand or I wouldn't have asked.

[UpABitLate]

Where previously they were trying to get a balance between men and women in certain positions / groups

Now they have changed the criteria to "A note on self-definition of gender
Where eligibility is restricted to self-defining woman this means that anyone who self-defines as a woman is eligible to stand for these positions. Young members who do not self-define as a woman will not be eligible. You must indicate whether you self-define as a woman when you complete the online nomination form via the Youth Elections portal."

ie if you want one of the women's places you just tick the woman box.

Given that they are having trouble getting enough women-women through for some positions - in the main party - this means that any man who wants a position in Lab just needs to tick the box.

As it's an equalities thing it's not like they have to be announced "this person is in a reserved female place" so they won't get any raised eyebrows as no-one will know it was them that took a female place.

It'll be 50% men and 50% non men before we blink.

Cunty type women are probably still allowed to make the tea at the meetings and stuff.

[OlennasWimple]

Come on Caroline Flint, Yvette Cooper et al! Shout loudly how this is not acceptable!

[Ereshkigal]

Well of course I read the OP and I don't understand or I wouldn't have asked

What about it don't you understand? It's really quite clear.

[ShotsFired]

I am not a LP member, but I urge all of you who are, and who are now cancelling memberships, to please put your reasons why in a letter/email and explicitly tell them. The LP needs to know the real effect their ridiculous actions are having.

FWIW, I have been sending my own Conservative MP more info (a bunch of printed articles over Christmas) followed up with the excellent Transgendertrend 2017 roundup URL in an email. He has responded to say thank you and that he is monitoring it and continues to be against it (well, not "not keen for it to progress" is more accurate)