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Do women openly negate and demean men?

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jackanorybiggins Sun 10-Dec-17 12:41:25

What's your experiences whether in the workplace, on TV or at home? Is feminism in danger of not being treated seriously because those with negative experiences of men feel the need to openly trash men. Do women or men trash the opposite sex more?

hipsterfun Sun 10-Dec-17 12:54:39

Question sounds like a phone-in.

nauticant Sun 10-Dec-17 12:56:20

When did you stop beating your husband?

IJoinedJustToPostThis Sun 10-Dec-17 12:57:58

Could you generalise a little more?

honeysucklejasmine Sun 10-Dec-17 12:59:41

You mean, people sharing their experiences? That's .... bad?

Ereshkigal Sun 10-Dec-17 13:03:42

The OP has also just reanimated a zombie thread about "men bashing".

jackanorybiggins Sun 10-Dec-17 13:03:44

Honeysuck - Trashing your husband and men in general are two separate things.

just5morepeas Sun 10-Dec-17 13:08:37

Won't somebody think of the poor men?!!1!!

IrkThePurist Sun 10-Dec-17 13:21:44

'women talking about their bad experiences' =/= feminism.

StigOfThePlump Sun 10-Dec-17 13:42:40

If you're asking "does man bashing give feminism a bad name?" then I'd say absolutely it does.

Search for the thread on here about the survey where only 7% of UK women identified as feminists despite 85% believing in equality. Many of the (female) posters explicitly stated that it was man bashing that influenced this stance and more than a few said that they avoid the feminism section on here as they find it tiresome.

It's sad as it turns most men away from helping and leaves just the limp-wristed ineffectual 'white knight types who are largely ignored in real life and are in many instances just hoping it'll get them laid.

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle Sun 10-Dec-17 13:45:10

Pointing out actual facts is not man bashing.
Describing lived experiences is not man bashing.
HTH

HemlockSpartacus Sun 10-Dec-17 13:55:27

Stig Did you want to start with explaining the "limp-wristed" comment? What might you be referring to there I wonder hmm

GuardianLions Sun 10-Dec-17 14:18:01

Sorry to give the thread oxygen... but. .... Aaa hahaha Hahaha grin
101 for you op

LassWiTheDelicateAir Sun 10-Dec-17 14:36:04

Negate doesn't mean what you think it means OP. The word you are looking for is "denigrate".

deckoff Sun 10-Dec-17 15:03:26

grin ask Reddit, you'll get much more support OP.

SophoclesTheFox Sun 10-Dec-17 15:06:18

Wow, stig, so you're homophobic too.

Otherwise, cool story, bro.

MentholBreeze Sun 10-Dec-17 15:22:23

I think the denigration I see on TV - in sitcoms, adverts etc. is mainly commissioned/written/directed by men - I wonder what this man bashing by men does for their collective consciousness.

StigOfThePlump Sun 10-Dec-17 15:23:36

Sophocles

Are you suggesting that gay men are physically weak? That sounds pretty homophobic. I train with a gay dude who's fucking jacked!

StigOfThePlump Sun 10-Dec-17 15:26:32

Hemlock

If you were hoping for some toxic masculinity slant I'm afraid you're outta luck.

As per my "ineffectual" comment I'm talking about the type of man who just agrees with feminists to get laid. These guys aren't typically the movers and shakers of this world.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 Sun 10-Dec-17 15:27:32

What a load of bollocks

If only 7% of women identify as feminists it can't possibly be only feminists man bashing

StigOfThePlump Sun 10-Dec-17 15:38:30

That's like saying it can't be only men abusing women...

SophoclesTheFox Sun 10-Dec-17 15:48:03

If you don't know what the phrase limp wristed is generally held to refer to, I can't help you.

Actually, I just can't help you.

<virtual ignore button on>

StigOfThePlump Sun 10-Dec-17 15:58:29

Ok, maybe "wet blanket" would've been more appropriate but I'm here for discussion not semantics. I've explained what I actually meant.

hipsterfun Sun 10-Dec-17 16:34:21

I've explained what I actually meant.

Ooh, that’s us told!

StigOfThePlump Sun 10-Dec-17 16:39:35

Well that's kind of key to a discussion. Y'know, explaining your view...

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